Launching their new social network, W, the EU posted a map of where other social networks are hosted.

[gimulnautti@mastodon.green]

@ricci I bet it’s owned by another bunch of techbros. Just techbros not from USA.

Let’s call them ’Eurobros’ because they just want to do a repeat inside Europe of what the neoliberal project managed to make of the US.

[mfr@mastodon.coffee]

@ricci @azuidhof for a moment I really thought the EU was wasting money and time on this. But it’s only a bunch of independent organizations/companies that are reinventing the wheel again. This will fail before it’s even started.

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@azuidhof @mfr they're actually using atproto, which is what Bluesky runs on, so I give them a little more chance of success because of that

[jollysea@chaos.social]

@ricci can you point me to a source that "the EU" has launched that network? With a CEO from Switzerland, famously not an EU member?

[mfr@mastodon.coffee]

@ricci @azuidhof ah , I didn’t look that far. But then it’ll be just another instance on an existing network methinks, or do they want to be decoupled and make a Chinese walled version?

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@azuidhof @mfr idk unclear, but so far they are connecting to the Bluesky relay, which you could think of as the atproto equivalent of "federating"

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@jollysea I realize they are not a government entity. But they are using a .eu domain (yes I know basically anyone can get one) so clearly this is the way they're trying to sell themselves

[_l1vy_@mstdn.social]

@mastodonmigration @ricci

Not to me 🧡

[supermoosie@mastodon.au]

@ricci

Isn't the EU also on Mastodon?

[iju@mastodon.social]

@SuperMoosie @ricci

Comission (that is, the EU-ministers) are. The other branches are not.

[johan@social.terbeest.org]

@ricci It’s undercounting for sure. I don’t see mine on there for instance. I run GoToSocial.

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@johan yeah, I'm guessing you probably have the option to hide public stats turned on? my crawler respects that option

[johan@social.terbeest.org]

@ricci Possibly? ‍️ I’ll go check cause I don’t actually mind to be findable

[dropbear@aus.social]

@colinburgess @ricci @xrobau are birds even real?

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@jollysea @UlrikeHahn read the post

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@johan hmm looks like you are not in the host list I'm using for some reason

[segebodo@chaos.social]

@ricci I'm not sure if the data in FediDB is accurate.
mastodon.uno has an Italian description but is stated to be hosted in France.
https://fedidb.com/software/mastodon?search=uno&region=europe

@fedidb what is the information source for the location in FediDB?

@colinburgess @xrobau

[jollysea@chaos.social]

@ricci I think its a good idea to own one's mistakes and make it clear when you edit a post. I agree with you on the substance, they are selling themselves for something they are not.

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@fedidb @colinburgess @xrobau @Segebodo FWIW I'm not using fedidb for my data, my crawler is documented here: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/fetch-nodeinfo-bot.html

I'm using ipinfo.io for geolocation - but, like fedidb, I can't tell where hosts behind CDNs are automatically. But if they have a system for letting admins indicate their location, and expose it via API, I can maybe get a better guess for some behind CDNs

[ricci@discuss.systems]

@jollysea if you look at the post you'll see that I did