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  • akamran@indieweb.socialA akamran@indieweb.social

    @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist @metin see, that's what I don't get - it's a statistical word generator, so how can either the prompt maker or prompt taker be sure what the actual words are?

    Although in either case, I'm inclined to be:

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    #20

    @akamran @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist 1/2

    I can think of three scenarios:

    1. Some people share their prompt, probably a very detailed one. Then others copy and paste it, maybe change it slightly, but yielding a very similar result, which they then call their own “creation”, while the “original” prompter gets upset about that.

    Or…

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    • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

      @akamran @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist 1/2

      I can think of three scenarios:

      1. Some people share their prompt, probably a very detailed one. Then others copy and paste it, maybe change it slightly, but yielding a very similar result, which they then call their own “creation”, while the “original” prompter gets upset about that.

      Or…

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      #21

      @akamran @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist 2/2

      2. Someone analyses a gen-AI result, then describes it very accurately as a prompt, yielding a very similar result.

      Or…

      3. It wouldn’t surprise me if there are already tools that allow you to reverse-engineer gen-AI results back to a probable prompt.

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      • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

        So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

        https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

        #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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        #22

        @metin@graphics.social FTA:

        consider a poster who railed about “prompt thieves in the AI art community,” or the “AI artist” who went on a tangent after someone aped his prompt “without knowing it’s mine.”

        “All my apes gone…”

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        • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

          So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

          https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

          #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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          #23

          @metin

          🙂 🙂 🙂

          I know I shouldn't laugh but there are times when nothing else will do ...

          And even sardonic laughter is good medicine ...

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          • myview@aus.socialM myview@aus.social

            @metin

            🙂 🙂 🙂

            I know I shouldn't laugh but there are times when nothing else will do ...

            And even sardonic laughter is good medicine ...

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            #24

            @MyView Yes, this is some satisfactory schadenfreude. 😈

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            • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

              So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

              https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

              #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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              #25

              @metin "And so it came as a total surprise, that AI was of course stealing from the sloperators aka prompt engineers, basically from everybody contributing. The whole thing has been from the start only about stealing anything from anyone, to feed my machine".

              You're not the customer, you are the product.

              Slop, slop, sloppity slop.

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              • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                #26

                @metin
                LMFAO

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                • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                  So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                  https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                  #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                  #27

                  @metin
                  They're making it clear that creating things isn't what's important to them, it's about getting the recognition they think they're owed.

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                  • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                    So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                    https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                    #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

                    sh41@androiddev.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #28

                    @metin this is hilarious. The meta levels of irony are 🧑‍🍳

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                    • cgudrian@social.tchncs.deC cgudrian@social.tchncs.de

                      @metin I have a hunch they’re not aware of the similarities…

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                      #29

                      @cgudrian @metin
                      the similarities are rather limited anyway, writing prompts isn't creation

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                      • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                        So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                        https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                        #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

                        toriver@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #30

                        @metin Slopiracy?

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                        • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                          So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                          https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                          #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                          #31

                          @metin I am not against AI. I have been using all kinds of machine learning based image generators for roughly a decade by now. I am, however, against "intellectual property". How can something that is easily copied be considered "property"?
                          Every time I publish anything a virtual neural network made for me, I publish it with the ull prompt I used. The entire point of it all is that anybody can do it, and if I happen to come up with a prompt that generates interesting results, I want others to be able to use and modify it.
                          I also make old-fashioned pixel art with ancient paint software and new recreations of it, and I publish everything I make under CC licenses so other people can take it and modify it. I also paint pictures with acrylic paint on canvas or cardboard, I draw with pencils and felt tip pens, and I publish everything I scan under CC licenses. I really hope that all of my works have been used in several image generators because I absolutely want them to be able to produce images in my style automatically.
                          What I don't want is companies "owning" AI. Me being against I.P. obviously also includes software copyrights and things like that. I want everything, every bloody thing, to be in the public domain, I want everybody to be able to use any content in any way they like without having to pay any money to anybody and without asking for permission.

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                          • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                            So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                            https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                            #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                            #32

                            @metin the prompt stealers just need to adopt the small penis rule to shut down the prompt influencers.

                            "the original creator of this prompt is verified to have a smol..."

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_penis_rule

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                            • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                              So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                              https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                              #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                              #33

                              @metin What the heck? Seriously, if AI images are not subject to copyright, then it follows that prompts aren't either. Please, continue to steal Amira Zairi's prompts as much as possible if you are cool with burning down the planet.

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                              • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                                So, now they know how real creators feel after having been ripped off by "AI"…

                                https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-prompt-plagiarism-art

                                #tech #technology #BigTech #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #LLM #LLMs #MachineLearning #GenAI #generativeAI #AISlop #Meta #Google #NVIDIA #gemini #OpenAI #ChatGPT #anthropic #claude

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                                #34

                                @metin This is comedy gold! As if an AI prompt is somehow a copyrightable work.

                                IMO this isn't any different than making the same #Reddit post as someone else verbatim.

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                                • lordcaramac@discordian.socialL lordcaramac@discordian.social

                                  @metin I am not against AI. I have been using all kinds of machine learning based image generators for roughly a decade by now. I am, however, against "intellectual property". How can something that is easily copied be considered "property"?
                                  Every time I publish anything a virtual neural network made for me, I publish it with the ull prompt I used. The entire point of it all is that anybody can do it, and if I happen to come up with a prompt that generates interesting results, I want others to be able to use and modify it.
                                  I also make old-fashioned pixel art with ancient paint software and new recreations of it, and I publish everything I make under CC licenses so other people can take it and modify it. I also paint pictures with acrylic paint on canvas or cardboard, I draw with pencils and felt tip pens, and I publish everything I scan under CC licenses. I really hope that all of my works have been used in several image generators because I absolutely want them to be able to produce images in my style automatically.
                                  What I don't want is companies "owning" AI. Me being against I.P. obviously also includes software copyrights and things like that. I want everything, every bloody thing, to be in the public domain, I want everybody to be able to use any content in any way they like without having to pay any money to anybody and without asking for permission.

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                                  #35

                                  @LordCaramac In an ideal world, with a basic income and social care for everyone, I would also love to share everything I create for free. But if you want to make a living from creating, especially as a freelancer, some form of monetization and legal protection is needed. IP helps to enable that. When a rich commercial TV station used my work without paying me, my agent approached them legally, and they paid because of IP law. These days, gen-AI has made a total mess of that.

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                                  • metin@graphics.socialM metin@graphics.social

                                    @akamran @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist 2/2

                                    2. Someone analyses a gen-AI result, then describes it very accurately as a prompt, yielding a very similar result.

                                    Or…

                                    3. It wouldn’t surprise me if there are already tools that allow you to reverse-engineer gen-AI results back to a probable prompt.

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                                    #36

                                    @metin @akamran @SuperMoosie @mrundkvist Some image generator tools embed all the creation info (model names & versions, prompts, etc.) as metadata in the generated image files.

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