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  • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

    @zzt But yes, the entire reason Linux became big was because the GNU Mach kernel project was in development hell, and then Linus posted a hobby project as part of a rebuttal to a debate with one of his professors that was Good Enough to make the GNU coreutils standalone. Hell, remember the original posting Linus made? He never wanted it to become big! But it did anyway and now we're all paying the price

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    @techokami @zzt Andrew Tanenbaum right? I remember we had books from him for our systems courses in computer science.

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    • axel@social.glitched.systemsA axel@social.glitched.systems

      @zzt@mas.to

      "when our labor is stolen that’s a personal betrayal"
      I don't understand how more people don't see this. They're strip-mining the internet and selling it back to you via taps that they control. It's crazy to me that people are so quick to willingly surrender to what is clearly a new form of mass oppression that's taking root.

      I'm already dealing with fresh college grads who can't arrive at solutions without prompting, it's extremely alarming every time I run into these people in classes.

      Also, as an aside, the people who are okay with slopping code but don't like it when art is slopped are a whole other enigma to me. Like, do you just not value your work? Is that it?

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      #50

      @axel @zzt

      Altman did say:

      "We see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy it from us on a meter and use it for whatever they want to use it for," he added"

      Source: https://archive.ph/Rh1tM

      It's why they've had books destroyed after scanning them for AI, with the intention of forcing us to depend on AI's regurgitated output when they originals can no longer be found.

      This is by design and goes beyond just AI vomit infecting open source. 🤬

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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        little fucker lives and dies on unearned respect

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        #51

        @zzt

        So much YES in this thread.

        PREACH

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        • workingclassgames@tech.lgbtW workingclassgames@tech.lgbt

          @techokami @zzt Andrew Tanenbaum right? I remember we had books from him for our systems courses in computer science.

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          @workingclassgames @zzt Yeop! Andy made a academic-only UNIX clone that was part of the inspiration as well as part of Linus' coursework

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          • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

            @zzt I might write a more detailed version of this later on tonight, no promises

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            @zzt teaser for the thing I am writing:
            "This resulted in Stallman taking the first draft of his unhinged plans to make a UNIX replacement and nailing them to the doors of the net.unix-wizards and net.usoft newsgroups in September of 1983."

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            • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

              @zzt teaser for the thing I am writing:
              "This resulted in Stallman taking the first draft of his unhinged plans to make a UNIX replacement and nailing them to the doors of the net.unix-wizards and net.usoft newsgroups in September of 1983."

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              @zzt another teaser, I love this line I wrote:
              "apparently Berkeley pulling off a Ship of Theseus with the entire UNIX operating system really pissed off the phone company."

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              • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                @zzt another teaser, I love this line I wrote:
                "apparently Berkeley pulling off a Ship of Theseus with the entire UNIX operating system really pissed off the phone company."

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                @techokami ooh I like where this is going

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                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                  @techokami ooh I like where this is going

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                  #56

                  @zzt yeah I'm hitting the weird shit in UNIX history to talk about this one kid's hobby project

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                  • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                    @zzt yeah I'm hitting the weird shit in UNIX history to talk about this one kid's hobby project

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                    @zzt also, shoutouts to @landley who gets an entire paragraph dedicated to the epic own he delivered to Stallman on stage

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                    • workingclassgames@tech.lgbtW workingclassgames@tech.lgbt

                      @techokami @zzt Andrew Tanenbaum right? I remember we had books from him for our systems courses in computer science.

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                      #58

                      @workingclassgames @techokami @zzt tanenbaum is cool as fuck amoeba is one of the five interesting OS designs ever made

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                      • steppe_lord@darksavantcrusaders.orgS steppe_lord@darksavantcrusaders.org
                        @zzt @davidgerard I've noticed boosters use that whataboutism to cope with the fact people usually don't want to deal or engage with their slop.
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                        @steppe_lord @davidgerard @zzt

                        whataboutism is often a tactic and call whistle of Ur-Fascism

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                        • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                          @workingclassgames @techokami @zzt tanenbaum is cool as fuck amoeba is one of the five interesting OS designs ever made

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                          @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt if Minix wasn't licensed to be academic-only until the 2000s things would be much more different

                          shame nobody wants to revive Minix 3. Except Intel for their CPUs.

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                          • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                            @workingclassgames @techokami @zzt tanenbaum is cool as fuck amoeba is one of the five interesting OS designs ever made

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                            @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @techokami @zzt No way, Python was apparently developed for this OS first???

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                            • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                              @zzt also, shoutouts to @landley who gets an entire paragraph dedicated to the epic own he delivered to Stallman on stage

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                              #62

                              @techokami @zzt Which one? I've ripped into him a lot over the years...

                              https://landley.net/notes-2010.html#19-07-2010

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                              • landley@mstdn.jpL landley@mstdn.jp

                                @techokami @zzt Which one? I've ripped into him a lot over the years...

                                https://landley.net/notes-2010.html#19-07-2010

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                                #63

                                @landley @zzt the one where you revived busybox to have a non-GNU Linux

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                                • synnfynn@social.shortcircuit.barS synnfynn@social.shortcircuit.bar

                                  @axel @zzt

                                  Altman did say:

                                  "We see a future where intelligence is a utility like electricity or water and people buy it from us on a meter and use it for whatever they want to use it for," he added"

                                  Source: https://archive.ph/Rh1tM

                                  It's why they've had books destroyed after scanning them for AI, with the intention of forcing us to depend on AI's regurgitated output when they originals can no longer be found.

                                  This is by design and goes beyond just AI vomit infecting open source. 🤬

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                                  @synnfynn @axel @zzt We're gonna have to do something about him.

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                                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                    little fucker lives and dies on unearned respect

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                                    @zzt You have articulated my own feelings very well. Thank you.

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                                    • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                                      @zzt yeah I'm hitting the weird shit in UNIX history to talk about this one kid's hobby project

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                                      #66

                                      @zzt dunno if you didn't see it but https://woof.tech/@techokami/117453095072801952 it is done

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                                      • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

                                        @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt if Minix wasn't licensed to be academic-only until the 2000s things would be much more different

                                        shame nobody wants to revive Minix 3. Except Intel for their CPUs.

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                                        #67

                                        @techokami @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt what do you mean by "Intel for their CPUs"

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                                        • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

                                          @techokami @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt what do you mean by "Intel for their CPUs"

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                                          @aburka @hipsterelectron @workingclassgames @zzt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

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