torvalds is really speedrunning all the major “dickhead manager discovers the slopbot” points
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and I am serious about this: if you want to predict what torvalds will say and do next, look at what AI boosters in power did months ago. he’s following the playbook to a T, and he’s digging up all the old justifications.
that makes it rather easy to shout back, of course, but torvalds isn’t (currently) afraid of that. he believes himself to be immune to shame.
@zzt has he talked about 'human made slop' yet or do we give him another month -
@zzt has he talked about 'human made slop' yet or do we give him another month
@steppe_lord no but some banned fucker on our lemmy instance just accused @davidgerard of writing it for criticizing torvalds, is that a thing now?
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got my first “why so angry” from some oblivious motherfucker
tell me, gang. read torvalds’ words and tell me why I’m so angry
@zzt
Being angry is a warranted response.(I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)
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got my first “why so angry” from some oblivious motherfucker
tell me, gang. read torvalds’ words and tell me why I’m so angry
@zzt I saw it and had to hold myself back
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@zzt
Being angry is a warranted response.(I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)
@dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it
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@dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it
@dzwiedziu fuck me for wanting to use software
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@zzt
Being angry is a warranted response.(I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)
@dzwiedziu @zzt Ah man, are the freeCAD devs dickheads too? I like FreeCAD.
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@dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it
@zzt
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@steppe_lord no but some banned fucker on our lemmy instance just accused @davidgerard of writing it for criticizing torvalds, is that a thing now?
@zzt @davidgerard I've noticed boosters use that whataboutism to cope with the fact people usually don't want to deal or engage with their slop. -
@dzwiedziu fuck me for wanting to use software
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@dzwiedziu @zzt Ah man, are the freeCAD devs dickheads too? I like FreeCAD.
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@zzt
Being angry is a warranted response.(I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)
@dzwiedziu @zzt Wait WHAT? God damn it.
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@zzt
Being angry is a warranted response.(I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)
@dzwiedziu @zzt oh come on! Why can’t I have a single software I like to use not welcoming slop.
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@dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it
@zzt
DO NOT MAKE ANY MISTAKES. DO NOT SUGGEST WE ADD A MODEL TIMELINE ALA LITERALLY EVERY PROFESSIONAL CAD SUITE
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@zzt he is absolutely going to take the kernel closed source. dude is seething https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117451818001188131
@tael @zzt This is the message Torvalds sent that I read the other day that pissed me off so badly that, even though I was already struggling with insomnia, *made it worse*.
(it did get me to stop looking at my damn phone). It's just such an angry, self-righteous, and absolutely fucking *wrong* take we've seen so many times. And he's being such a huge fucking baby about it (just like, as stated, every other booster). And it's coming in response to one kernel developer just trying to put up *some* reasonable expectations and trying to push back against the idea that they don't need to train new people in kernel development. -
@tael @zzt This is the message Torvalds sent that I read the other day that pissed me off so badly that, even though I was already struggling with insomnia, *made it worse*.
(it did get me to stop looking at my damn phone). It's just such an angry, self-righteous, and absolutely fucking *wrong* take we've seen so many times. And he's being such a huge fucking baby about it (just like, as stated, every other booster). And it's coming in response to one kernel developer just trying to put up *some* reasonable expectations and trying to push back against the idea that they don't need to train new people in kernel development.@tael @zzt "It's just a tool, like a compiler" no it isn't "just like autocomplete" no it isn't "just like blah blah blah" no it isn't! It is, hilariously enough, something new and unique that is somewhat unlike anything that has come before! That does not mean it is *good* or that it does what you are claiming it does. It is very good at: attacking labor, providing justifications for shitty behavior, enclosure, propaganda, and misinformation. It's pretty much shown to be "not that useful" for everything else when any reasonable metrics are applied to it.
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and I am serious about this: if you want to predict what torvalds will say and do next, look at what AI boosters in power did months ago. he’s following the playbook to a T, and he’s digging up all the old justifications.
that makes it rather easy to shout back, of course, but torvalds isn’t (currently) afraid of that. he believes himself to be immune to shame.
@zzt Also aligned with the techbros, he believes his project to be "too big to fail".
You can interpret that two ways of course.
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got my first “why so angry” from some oblivious motherfucker
tell me, gang. read torvalds’ words and tell me why I’m so angry
Imagine clutching your pearls about directing harsh words at Linus fucking Torvalds. The perkeleen vittupää famous for being so sensitive about flinging insults over technical disagreements.
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"when our labor is stolen that’s a personal betrayal"
I don't understand how more people don't see this. They're strip-mining the internet and selling it back to you via taps that they control. It's crazy to me that people are so quick to willingly surrender to what is clearly a new form of mass oppression that's taking root.
I'm already dealing with fresh college grads who can't arrive at solutions without prompting, it's extremely alarming every time I run into these people in classes.
Also, as an aside, the people who are okay with slopping code but don't like it when art is slopped are a whole other enigma to me. Like, do you just not value your work? Is that it?
