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torvalds is really speedrunning all the major “dickhead manager discovers the slopbot” points

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  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

    why would I respond to repeated and personal betrayals by one of the most toxic men in tech with anger?

    and yes, when our labor is stolen that’s a personal betrayal. it doesn’t matter if torvalds knows who I am. I frankly don’t give a shit if he does. what I need you to know is he’s a weak fuck pretending to be a genius.

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    #26

    @zzt@mas.to

    "when our labor is stolen that’s a personal betrayal"
    I don't understand how more people don't see this. They're strip-mining the internet and selling it back to you via taps that they control. It's crazy to me that people are so quick to willingly surrender to what is clearly a new form of mass oppression that's taking root.

    I'm already dealing with fresh college grads who can't arrive at solutions without prompting, it's extremely alarming every time I run into these people in classes.

    Also, as an aside, the people who are okay with slopping code but don't like it when art is slopped are a whole other enigma to me. Like, do you just not value your work? Is that it?

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      torvalds is really speedrunning all the major “dickhead manager discovers the slopbot” points

      and of course, observers know what comes next: trying to shout over every breakage, every maintainer that leaves, every instance where using LLMs has proven to be a horrible fucking idea

      nobody operating in good faith thinks an LLM is like a compiler. this is an AI booster meme from early 2026. but torvalds has a captive audience, so his bad takes don’t need to be new. expect to see this crap parroted once again by the worst guys you know. https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117451805824031590

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      #27

      @zzt He should step down and let an actual programmer manage the kernel

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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        and I am serious about this: if you want to predict what torvalds will say and do next, look at what AI boosters in power did months ago. he’s following the playbook to a T, and he’s digging up all the old justifications.

        that makes it rather easy to shout back, of course, but torvalds isn’t (currently) afraid of that. he believes himself to be immune to shame.

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        #28
        @zzt has he talked about 'human made slop' yet or do we give him another month
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        • steppe_lord@darksavantcrusaders.orgS steppe_lord@darksavantcrusaders.org
          @zzt has he talked about 'human made slop' yet or do we give him another month
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          #29

          @steppe_lord no but some banned fucker on our lemmy instance just accused @davidgerard of writing it for criticizing torvalds, is that a thing now?

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            got my first “why so angry” from some oblivious motherfucker

            tell me, gang. read torvalds’ words and tell me why I’m so angry

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            #30

            @zzt
            Being angry is a warranted response.

            (I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              got my first “why so angry” from some oblivious motherfucker

              tell me, gang. read torvalds’ words and tell me why I’m so angry

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              #31

              @zzt I saw it and had to hold myself back

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              • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                @zzt
                Being angry is a warranted response.

                (I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)

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                #32

                @dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it

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                • hundhamm@muenchen.socialH hundhamm@muenchen.social

                  @zzt
                  Why so angry?

                  Fork and call it nollmux.

                  Or use BSD or Hurd if you don't like Linux.

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                  #33

                  @hundhamm @zzt

                  Why respond?

                  Just scroll on.

                  You have done nothing here but be condescending to someone venting on their own timeline.

                  Twitter exists for that.

                  Happy Friday.

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    @dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it

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                    #34

                    @dzwiedziu fuck me for wanting to use software

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                    • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                      @zzt
                      Being angry is a warranted response.

                      (I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)

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                      #35

                      @dzwiedziu @zzt Ah man, are the freeCAD devs dickheads too? I like FreeCAD.

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                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                        @dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it

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                        #36

                        @zzt
                        Being interrogated on the above by the head WIP post writer I can think about a reason or two.

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                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                          @steppe_lord no but some banned fucker on our lemmy instance just accused @davidgerard of writing it for criticizing torvalds, is that a thing now?

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                          #37
                          @zzt @davidgerard I've noticed boosters use that whataboutism to cope with the fact people usually don't want to deal or engage with their slop.
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                          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                            @dzwiedziu fuck me for wanting to use software

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                            #38

                            @zzt
                            You, me, and the Us makes three…

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                            • nate@coxenheim.socialN nate@coxenheim.social

                              @dzwiedziu @zzt Ah man, are the freeCAD devs dickheads too? I like FreeCAD.

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                              #39

                              @nate
                              I can't find a better way to put it at this time.

                              @zzt

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                              • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                                @zzt
                                Being angry is a warranted response.

                                (I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)

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                                #40

                                @dzwiedziu @zzt Wait WHAT? God damn it.

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                                • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                                  @zzt
                                  Being angry is a warranted response.

                                  (I'm not more angry as I burnt it up on the FreeCAD slop-acceptance/wake thread being asked do I know FreeCADs processes enough to be allowed to have my voice heard.)

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                                  #41

                                  @dzwiedziu @zzt oh come on! Why can’t I have a single software I like to use not welcoming slop.

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                                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                    @dzwiedziu ah, of course freecad is going slop, why wouldn’t it

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                                    #42

                                    @zzt
                                    DO NOT MAKE ANY MISTAKES. DO NOT SUGGEST WE ADD A MODEL TIMELINE ALA LITERALLY EVERY PROFESSIONAL CAD SUITE
                                    @dzwiedziu

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                                    • tael@yiff.lifeT tael@yiff.life

                                      @zzt he is absolutely going to take the kernel closed source. dude is seething https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/117451818001188131

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                                      #43

                                      @tael @zzt This is the message Torvalds sent that I read the other day that pissed me off so badly that, even though I was already struggling with insomnia, *made it worse*.

                                      (it did get me to stop looking at my damn phone).  It's just such an angry, self-righteous, and absolutely fucking *wrong* take we've seen so many times.  And he's being such a huge fucking baby about it (just like, as stated, every other booster).  And it's coming in response to one kernel developer just trying to put up *some* reasonable expectations and trying to push back against the idea that they don't need to train new people in kernel development.

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                                      • aud@spectre.asta.lgbtA aud@spectre.asta.lgbt

                                        @tael @zzt This is the message Torvalds sent that I read the other day that pissed me off so badly that, even though I was already struggling with insomnia, *made it worse*.

                                        (it did get me to stop looking at my damn phone).  It's just such an angry, self-righteous, and absolutely fucking *wrong* take we've seen so many times.  And he's being such a huge fucking baby about it (just like, as stated, every other booster).  And it's coming in response to one kernel developer just trying to put up *some* reasonable expectations and trying to push back against the idea that they don't need to train new people in kernel development.

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                                        #44

                                        @tael @zzt "It's just a tool, like a compiler" no it isn't "just like autocomplete" no it isn't "just like blah blah blah" no it isn't!  It is, hilariously enough, something new and unique that is somewhat unlike anything that has come before!  That does not mean it is *good* or that it does what you are claiming it does.  It is very good at: attacking labor, providing justifications for shitty behavior, enclosure, propaganda, and misinformation.  It's pretty much shown to be "not that useful" for everything else when any reasonable metrics are applied to it.

                                        He's definitely 6 months to a year behind on his propaganda and that is really frustrating since he effectively gatekeeps the kernel, which is wildly goddamn important.

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                                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                          and I am serious about this: if you want to predict what torvalds will say and do next, look at what AI boosters in power did months ago. he’s following the playbook to a T, and he’s digging up all the old justifications.

                                          that makes it rather easy to shout back, of course, but torvalds isn’t (currently) afraid of that. he believes himself to be immune to shame.

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                                          #45

                                          @zzt Also aligned with the techbros, he believes his project to be "too big to fail".

                                          You can interpret that two ways of course.

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