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The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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  • paleblueyedot@tech.lgbtP paleblueyedot@tech.lgbt

    @401matthall @complexmath but now, at least in their minds, not as necessary

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    #25

    @paleblueyedot

    If it didn't mean my potential unemployment... I'd kinda like to watch the chaos that ensues.

    LLM-driven development is seductive for a reason. It _feels_ like it's working initially. Just like any sloppy code implementation done in a hurry.

    It _feels_ productive to close tickets.

    This has _always_ been a failure of measurement on the part of 'management/leadership.' They've never chosen meaningful metrics. They've chosen _easy_ metrics.

    @complexmath

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    • 401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 401matthall@mastodon.xyz

      @paleblueyedot

      If it didn't mean my potential unemployment... I'd kinda like to watch the chaos that ensues.

      LLM-driven development is seductive for a reason. It _feels_ like it's working initially. Just like any sloppy code implementation done in a hurry.

      It _feels_ productive to close tickets.

      This has _always_ been a failure of measurement on the part of 'management/leadership.' They've never chosen meaningful metrics. They've chosen _easy_ metrics.

      @complexmath

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      #26

      @paleblueyedot

      The failure to genuinely understand the problem and the goal is a long-term failure. Since most measurements are taken on a quarterly basis the negatives don't show up until failure is systemic and overwhelming.

      This is the _perfect_ mind space for LLM driven development, if you're selling it.

      <shrug>

      If metrics and targets don't change we'll not be encouraged to build good systems. We'll build them _in spite_ of not because of leadership.

      @complexmath

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      • bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.orgB bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org

        @complexmath

        Right, but hasn't that been true, since, like, at least the industrial revolution, and also going back to the serfs of the Middle Ages?

        I think those in power have always been anti-labor.

        LLM-gen-AI is just the latest fad to give those in power an excuse to mistreat the working class.

        Cc: @Ashedryden

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        #27

        @bkuhn @complexmath @Ashedryden yes, it's forever in both directions

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        • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

          The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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          #28

          @complexmath time to join a union

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          • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

            @ralfmaximus @complexmath "Sure, I can come back... [calculates former salary + cost of benefits, et al = PayRate] ... as a consultant. My hourly rate is [10*PayRate], first month's fee paid in advance."

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            #29

            @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

            An ex actually did something like this!

            They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?

            She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.

            THEY PAID IT

            So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.

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            • bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.orgB bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org

              @complexmath

              Right, but hasn't that been true, since, like, at least the industrial revolution, and also going back to the serfs of the Middle Ages?

              I think those in power have always been anti-labor.

              LLM-gen-AI is just the latest fad to give those in power an excuse to mistreat the working class.

              Cc: @Ashedryden

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              #30

              @bkuhn It seems like there were a lot of computer programmers who didn't get the memo til now, hence, "the knowledge" in the original post

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              • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                @Crystal_Fish_Caves

                Thanks, dad! Or mom.

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                #31

                @ralfmaximus 😂

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                • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                  @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                  An ex actually did something like this!

                  They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?

                  She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.

                  THEY PAID IT

                  So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.

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                  #32

                  @ralfmaximus @complexmath Good for your ex! 😀 👏

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                  • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                    @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                    An ex actually did something like this!

                    They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?

                    She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.

                    THEY PAID IT

                    So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.

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                    #33

                    @ralfmaximus @complexmath The question now is...did they learn from the experience?

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                    • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                      @complexmath

                      2024 Boss: Ha! We replaced you with an AI agent named Larry. YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED loser

                      2025 Boss: oh no what is happening why is everything bad and money go bye

                      2026 Boss: ..can you pwetty pwease come back we miss you

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                      #34

                      @ralfmaximus @complexmath 2026 boss: you want money don't you, let's get the intern to do it.
                      2027 boss: see 2025
                      2028 boss: gee guess I've retired just before the company went under.

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                      • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                        The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                        #35

                        @complexmath the amount of shitposts is endless.

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                        • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                          @ralfmaximus @complexmath The question now is...did they learn from the experience?

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                          #36

                          @dancingtreefrog @ralfmaximus @complexmath Or did they try to get your ex to teach an intern how to set up everything?

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                          • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                            The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                            #37

                            @complexmath they value your work ok, they just want it for free

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                            • lperry2@mastodon.socialL lperry2@mastodon.social

                              @dancingtreefrog @ralfmaximus @complexmath Or did they try to get your ex to teach an intern how to set up everything?

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                              #38

                              @LPerry2 @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                              It's a reasonable question! But no.

                              Due to the compressed time frame (they called on a Thursday for a Saturday/Sunday event) she didn't get it in writing until Friday noonish, giving her about 30 hours to do two full days of setup. By herself. She moved at warp speed, no time to explain what she did or why, and without help so.. nobody got trained.

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                              • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                                The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                                #39

                                @complexmath

                                And NOW we are talking. It’s about the Boss. The economy. Not AI.

                                AI is just the symptom.

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                                • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                                  @LPerry2 @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                                  It's a reasonable question! But no.

                                  Due to the compressed time frame (they called on a Thursday for a Saturday/Sunday event) she didn't get it in writing until Friday noonish, giving her about 30 hours to do two full days of setup. By herself. She moved at warp speed, no time to explain what she did or why, and without help so.. nobody got trained.

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                                  #40

                                  @ralfmaximus @dancingtreefrog @complexmath That's good.
                                  My nephew was one of those early DOGE layoffs. He's now doing the same work for 3 times the money, working for a company founded by his former boss, who was also laid off by the teenage know-it-alls.

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                                  • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                                    The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                                    #41

                                    @complexmath and the damage that AI is doing will take decades to reverse. If reversal is even possible after they destroy our fresh water, poison our environments and bankrupt entire communities.

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                                    • lperry2@mastodon.socialL lperry2@mastodon.social

                                      @ralfmaximus @dancingtreefrog @complexmath That's good.
                                      My nephew was one of those early DOGE layoffs. He's now doing the same work for 3 times the money, working for a company founded by his former boss, who was also laid off by the teenage know-it-alls.

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                                      #42

                                      @LPerry2 @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                                      An excellent outcome! Sadly, most DOGE layoffs didn't end with that kind of success.

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                                      • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                                        The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                                        #43

                                        @complexmath I've made it a point to never have a boss, but the one time I did have a boss, I straight up did what I wanted instead of what he wanted, I think that's why he let me go?

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