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The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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  • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

    The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

    crystal_fish_caves@mstdn.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #16

    @complexmath
    testify.

    We were not informed one was joining our ranks. Above us. I do not believe any of us was offered the position.

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    • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

      @complexmath

      2024 Boss: Ha! We replaced you with an AI agent named Larry. YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED loser

      2025 Boss: oh no what is happening why is everything bad and money go bye

      2026 Boss: ..can you pwetty pwease come back we miss you

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      #17

      @ralfmaximus

      I love you like a son.
      or daughter whatever just glad you are here.

      😜

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      • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

        @complexmath

        2024 Boss: Ha! We replaced you with an AI agent named Larry. YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED loser

        2025 Boss: oh no what is happening why is everything bad and money go bye

        2026 Boss: ..can you pwetty pwease come back we miss you

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        #18

        @ralfmaximus @complexmath "Sure, I can come back... [calculates former salary + cost of benefits, et al = PayRate] ... as a consultant. My hourly rate is [10*PayRate], first month's fee paid in advance."

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        • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

          @complexmath

          2024 Boss: Ha! We replaced you with an AI agent named Larry. YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED loser

          2025 Boss: oh no what is happening why is everything bad and money go bye

          2026 Boss: ..can you pwetty pwease come back we miss you

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          #19

          @ralfmaximus @complexmath 2026 Employee: FU!!! 😆

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          • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

            The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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            #20

            @complexmath Which means that après l'effondrement, recruiters and employers will be blowing a lot of sunshine up people’s asses about how they value employees

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            • crystal_fish_caves@mstdn.partyC crystal_fish_caves@mstdn.party

              @ralfmaximus

              I love you like a son.
              or daughter whatever just glad you are here.

              😜

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              #21

              @Crystal_Fish_Caves

              Thanks, dad! Or mom.

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              • 401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 401matthall@mastodon.xyz

                @complexmath

                They never have. We've always been a _necessary evil_ to them.

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                #22

                @401matthall @complexmath but now, at least in their minds, not as necessary

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                • cyndakuiru@wien.rocksC cyndakuiru@wien.rocks

                  @complexmath That is very true.
                  See, my boss has dyslexia. He has a hard time writing down his thoughts in sentences everyone who doesn‘t have his thoughts can understand.
                  Before ChatGPT was a thing, I proofread his mails. That still didn‘t make the text completely his own words but at least I tried to figure out what he actually wanted to say in the first place.
                  Now he asks ChatGPT. His mails are bad.
                  And I think he values the convenience of the bot more than expressing his thoughts in a clear way. Which is pretty sad. (Also, I don‘t think he understands how much work it was to write those mails for him.)

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                  #23

                  @cyndakuiru @complexmath

                  Also, I don‘t think he understands how much work it was to write those mails for him.

                  This is the common theme for all the sloppushers. They don't appreciate the actual craft, never did, and wouldn't know the difference between it done properly and it done poorly. So for them, there really is no difference, as long as the money keeps rolling in, and regulations don't force them to have standards.

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                  • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                    The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                    #24

                    @complexmath Of course, it also works the other way, for the businesses that demonstrate they value the worker's work.

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                    • paleblueyedot@tech.lgbtP paleblueyedot@tech.lgbt

                      @401matthall @complexmath but now, at least in their minds, not as necessary

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                      #25

                      @paleblueyedot

                      If it didn't mean my potential unemployment... I'd kinda like to watch the chaos that ensues.

                      LLM-driven development is seductive for a reason. It _feels_ like it's working initially. Just like any sloppy code implementation done in a hurry.

                      It _feels_ productive to close tickets.

                      This has _always_ been a failure of measurement on the part of 'management/leadership.' They've never chosen meaningful metrics. They've chosen _easy_ metrics.

                      @complexmath

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                      • 401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 401matthall@mastodon.xyz

                        @paleblueyedot

                        If it didn't mean my potential unemployment... I'd kinda like to watch the chaos that ensues.

                        LLM-driven development is seductive for a reason. It _feels_ like it's working initially. Just like any sloppy code implementation done in a hurry.

                        It _feels_ productive to close tickets.

                        This has _always_ been a failure of measurement on the part of 'management/leadership.' They've never chosen meaningful metrics. They've chosen _easy_ metrics.

                        @complexmath

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                        #26

                        @paleblueyedot

                        The failure to genuinely understand the problem and the goal is a long-term failure. Since most measurements are taken on a quarterly basis the negatives don't show up until failure is systemic and overwhelming.

                        This is the _perfect_ mind space for LLM driven development, if you're selling it.

                        <shrug>

                        If metrics and targets don't change we'll not be encouraged to build good systems. We'll build them _in spite_ of not because of leadership.

                        @complexmath

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                        • bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.orgB bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org

                          @complexmath

                          Right, but hasn't that been true, since, like, at least the industrial revolution, and also going back to the serfs of the Middle Ages?

                          I think those in power have always been anti-labor.

                          LLM-gen-AI is just the latest fad to give those in power an excuse to mistreat the working class.

                          Cc: @Ashedryden

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                          #27

                          @bkuhn @complexmath @Ashedryden yes, it's forever in both directions

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                          • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                            The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                            #28

                            @complexmath time to join a union

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                            • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                              @ralfmaximus @complexmath "Sure, I can come back... [calculates former salary + cost of benefits, et al = PayRate] ... as a consultant. My hourly rate is [10*PayRate], first month's fee paid in advance."

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                              #29

                              @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                              An ex actually did something like this!

                              They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?

                              She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.

                              THEY PAID IT

                              So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.

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                              • bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.orgB bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org

                                @complexmath

                                Right, but hasn't that been true, since, like, at least the industrial revolution, and also going back to the serfs of the Middle Ages?

                                I think those in power have always been anti-labor.

                                LLM-gen-AI is just the latest fad to give those in power an excuse to mistreat the working class.

                                Cc: @Ashedryden

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                                #30

                                @bkuhn It seems like there were a lot of computer programmers who didn't get the memo til now, hence, "the knowledge" in the original post

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                                • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                                  @Crystal_Fish_Caves

                                  Thanks, dad! Or mom.

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                                  #31

                                  @ralfmaximus 😂

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                                  • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                                    @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                                    An ex actually did something like this!

                                    They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?

                                    She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.

                                    THEY PAID IT

                                    So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.

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                                    #32

                                    @ralfmaximus @complexmath Good for your ex! 😀 👏

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                                    • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                                      @dancingtreefrog @complexmath

                                      An ex actually did something like this!

                                      They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?

                                      She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.

                                      THEY PAID IT

                                      So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.

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                                      #33

                                      @ralfmaximus @complexmath The question now is...did they learn from the experience?

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                                      • ralfmaximus@mastodon.socialR ralfmaximus@mastodon.social

                                        @complexmath

                                        2024 Boss: Ha! We replaced you with an AI agent named Larry. YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED loser

                                        2025 Boss: oh no what is happening why is everything bad and money go bye

                                        2026 Boss: ..can you pwetty pwease come back we miss you

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                                        #34

                                        @ralfmaximus @complexmath 2026 boss: you want money don't you, let's get the intern to do it.
                                        2027 boss: see 2025
                                        2028 boss: gee guess I've retired just before the company went under.

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                                        • complexmath@hachyderm.ioC complexmath@hachyderm.io

                                          The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.

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                                          #35

                                          @complexmath the amount of shitposts is endless.

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