The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.
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The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.
@complexmath Which means that après l'effondrement, recruiters and employers will be blowing a lot of sunshine up people’s asses about how they value employees
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Thanks, dad! Or mom.
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They never have. We've always been a _necessary evil_ to them.
@401matthall @complexmath but now, at least in their minds, not as necessary
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@complexmath That is very true.
See, my boss has dyslexia. He has a hard time writing down his thoughts in sentences everyone who doesn‘t have his thoughts can understand.
Before ChatGPT was a thing, I proofread his mails. That still didn‘t make the text completely his own words but at least I tried to figure out what he actually wanted to say in the first place.
Now he asks ChatGPT. His mails are bad.
And I think he values the convenience of the bot more than expressing his thoughts in a clear way. Which is pretty sad. (Also, I don‘t think he understands how much work it was to write those mails for him.)Also, I don‘t think he understands how much work it was to write those mails for him.
This is the common theme for all the sloppushers. They don't appreciate the actual craft, never did, and wouldn't know the difference between it done properly and it done poorly. So for them, there really is no difference, as long as the money keeps rolling in, and regulations don't force them to have standards.
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The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.
@complexmath Of course, it also works the other way, for the businesses that demonstrate they value the worker's work.
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@401matthall @complexmath but now, at least in their minds, not as necessary
If it didn't mean my potential unemployment... I'd kinda like to watch the chaos that ensues.
LLM-driven development is seductive for a reason. It _feels_ like it's working initially. Just like any sloppy code implementation done in a hurry.
It _feels_ productive to close tickets.
This has _always_ been a failure of measurement on the part of 'management/leadership.' They've never chosen meaningful metrics. They've chosen _easy_ metrics.
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If it didn't mean my potential unemployment... I'd kinda like to watch the chaos that ensues.
LLM-driven development is seductive for a reason. It _feels_ like it's working initially. Just like any sloppy code implementation done in a hurry.
It _feels_ productive to close tickets.
This has _always_ been a failure of measurement on the part of 'management/leadership.' They've never chosen meaningful metrics. They've chosen _easy_ metrics.
The failure to genuinely understand the problem and the goal is a long-term failure. Since most measurements are taken on a quarterly basis the negatives don't show up until failure is systemic and overwhelming.
This is the _perfect_ mind space for LLM driven development, if you're selling it.
<shrug>
If metrics and targets don't change we'll not be encouraged to build good systems. We'll build them _in spite_ of not because of leadership.
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Right, but hasn't that been true, since, like, at least the industrial revolution, and also going back to the serfs of the Middle Ages?
I think those in power have always been anti-labor.
LLM-gen-AI is just the latest fad to give those in power an excuse to mistreat the working class.
Cc: @Ashedryden
@bkuhn @complexmath @Ashedryden yes, it's forever in both directions
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The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.
@complexmath time to join a union
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@ralfmaximus @complexmath "Sure, I can come back... [calculates former salary + cost of benefits, et al = PayRate] ... as a consultant. My hourly rate is [10*PayRate], first month's fee paid in advance."
An ex actually did something like this!
They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?
She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.
THEY PAID IT
So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.
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Right, but hasn't that been true, since, like, at least the industrial revolution, and also going back to the serfs of the Middle Ages?
I think those in power have always been anti-labor.
LLM-gen-AI is just the latest fad to give those in power an excuse to mistreat the working class.
Cc: @Ashedryden
@bkuhn It seems like there were a lot of computer programmers who didn't get the memo til now, hence, "the knowledge" in the original post
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Thanks, dad! Or mom.
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An ex actually did something like this!
They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?
She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.
THEY PAID IT
So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.
@ralfmaximus @complexmath Good for your ex!
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An ex actually did something like this!
They terminated her IT contract prior to a huge holiday event, then realized they had nobody to run cables or set up the AV equipment. Reached out to her with a heyyyyy, would you...?
She responded with an eye-watering consultant fee. Non-negotiable. Figured they would Fuck Off.
THEY PAID IT
So my ex made like $11,000 for a weekend's work because these asshats fired her.
@ralfmaximus @complexmath The question now is...did they learn from the experience?
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2024 Boss: Ha! We replaced you with an AI agent named Larry. YOU'RE FUCKING FIRED loser
2025 Boss: oh no what is happening why is everything bad and money go bye
2026 Boss: ..can you pwetty pwease come back we miss you
@ralfmaximus @complexmath 2026 boss: you want money don't you, let's get the intern to do it.
2027 boss: see 2025
2028 boss: gee guess I've retired just before the company went under. -
The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.
@complexmath the amount of shitposts is endless.
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@ralfmaximus @complexmath The question now is...did they learn from the experience?
@dancingtreefrog @ralfmaximus @complexmath Or did they try to get your ex to teach an intern how to set up everything?
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The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.
@complexmath they value your work ok, they just want it for free
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@dancingtreefrog @ralfmaximus @complexmath Or did they try to get your ex to teach an intern how to set up everything?
@LPerry2 @dancingtreefrog @complexmath
It's a reasonable question! But no.
Due to the compressed time frame (they called on a Thursday for a Saturday/Sunday event) she didn't get it in writing until Friday noonish, giving her about 30 hours to do two full days of setup. By herself. She moved at warp speed, no time to explain what she did or why, and without help so.. nobody got trained.
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The AI bubble is temporary, but the knowledge that your boss does not value your work is forever.
And NOW we are talking. It’s about the Boss. The economy. Not AI.
AI is just the symptom.
