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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

    ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

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    daemon_byte@mastodon.social
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    #221

    @EUCommission I was on the waitlist for W but I won't be signing up. They promised to be open and all they did was take open source code and close it. That doesn't build trust and if they are willing to lie before they even launch I don't trust them with my id

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    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

      @EUCommission how bizarre to be promoting a random VC-funded social network when you've barely put the same effort into promoting Mastodon. This has a shady feeling to it.

      quasit@beige.partyQ This user is from outside of this forum
      quasit@beige.partyQ This user is from outside of this forum
      quasit@beige.party
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #222

      @Gina @EUCommission

      "The same" effort? Have they really done that? All I've seen are a couple of posts from them about being on Mastodon.

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

        We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

        Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

        And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

        amosmulder@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        amosmulder@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        amosmulder@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #223

        @EUCommission Yes we need independent digital spaces, and W is not one. So you're contradicting yourself.

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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

          dc4dd@sueden.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
          dc4dd@sueden.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
          dc4dd@sueden.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #224

          @EUCommission Nope!

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

            We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

            Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

            And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

            alikatze@social.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
            alikatze@social.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
            alikatze@social.tchncs.de
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #225

            @EUCommission
            No thanks, why would I?
            We're here. It's good and even better.
            You chould strengthen the #fediverse by using it. There's no need for another split platform.

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

              ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

              jornfranke@social.anoxinon.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jornfranke@social.anoxinon.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jornfranke@social.anoxinon.de
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #226

              @EUCommission no thanks W Social is not open, has waiting lists (like all failed social networks) and is not needed. All the infrastructure exists already with ActivityPub and its numerous applications.
              You can suggest W Social to host an ActivityPub technology.

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                haploc@fedi.cr-net.beH This user is from outside of this forum
                haploc@fedi.cr-net.beH This user is from outside of this forum
                haploc@fedi.cr-net.be
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #227

                @EUCommission W is not an alternative if it is closed-source.
                You're heading back into a walled garden, which is then contrary to "true digital sovereignty".

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                • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                  @EUCommission It's kind of crazy that Mastodon never got this kind of promotion and endorsement, unlike this 4 month old platform that came out of nowhere.

                  kobold@orthographieanarchist.deK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kobold@orthographieanarchist.deK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kobold@orthographieanarchist.de
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #228

                  @Gargron @EUCommission I guess you did not pay enough. 😁

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                    We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                    Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                    And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                    liaizon@social.wake.stL This user is from outside of this forum
                    liaizon@social.wake.stL This user is from outside of this forum
                    liaizon@social.wake.st
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #229

                    @EUCommission the w stands for wtf

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

                      ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

                      ralocycleuse@eldritch.cafeR This user is from outside of this forum
                      ralocycleuse@eldritch.cafeR This user is from outside of this forum
                      ralocycleuse@eldritch.cafe
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #230

                      @EUCommission wrong platform to brag about that, darling.

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                      • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                        @EUCommission It's kind of crazy that Mastodon never got this kind of promotion and endorsement, unlike this 4 month old platform that came out of nowhere.

                        carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        carstenfranke@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #231

                        @Gargron
                        It seems someone had political connections or a bunch of money to buy the political connection.

                        @EUCommission

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                          blackdragonfly@techhub.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          blackdragonfly@techhub.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #232

                          @EUCommission Could you just explain where W is decentralized as well as an open ecosystem? And how do you define independent?

                          And aren’t commercial goals and public responsibility slightly conflicting interests, not that politicians seems to have a problem with that?

                          At least the first and hopefully the last statement remains true.

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                          • delafin@climatejustice.socialD delafin@climatejustice.social

                            @Gargron Mastodon is obviously not the kind of venture capital luring tech that the EU is salivating over @EUCommission

                            herman@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                            herman@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
                            herman@mastodon.world
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #233

                            @EUCommission @Gargron @delafin Mastodon is not centrally controlled. That is the problem for the #EU. They want control, verification.

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                            • blackdragonfly@techhub.socialB blackdragonfly@techhub.social

                              @EUCommission Could you just explain where W is decentralized as well as an open ecosystem? And how do you define independent?

                              And aren’t commercial goals and public responsibility slightly conflicting interests, not that politicians seems to have a problem with that?

                              At least the first and hopefully the last statement remains true.

                              aeris@firefish.imirhil.frA This user is from outside of this forum
                              aeris@firefish.imirhil.frA This user is from outside of this forum
                              aeris@firefish.imirhil.fr
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #234

                              @blackDragonfly@techhub.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu It seems to be based on ATProtocol, a fully decentralized and opensource one.
                              https://atproto.com/

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                krazykitty@mamot.frK This user is from outside of this forum
                                krazykitty@mamot.frK This user is from outside of this forum
                                krazykitty@mamot.fr
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #235

                                @EUCommission read the room

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                                • weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW weirdwriter@caneandable.social

                                  I am Not in the EU, but even so, I think you and others should see https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/ @EUCommission

                                  craignicol@glasgow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  craignicol@glasgow.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #236

                                  @WeirdWriter @EUCommission in other EU news https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-digital-id-wallet-ireland-plans-online-verification-explainer-factcheck-vaccines-misinformation-7045802-May2026/

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                                  • mike@fosstodon.orgM mike@fosstodon.org

                                    @Gargron From what I've read, W is super sketchy and run by a for profit organization. That means they're either planning on selling customer data or feeding ads. No thank you very much.

                                    @EUCommission

                                    martinlentink@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    martinlentink@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                                    martinlentink@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #237

                                    @mike @Gargron @EUCommission Probably both...

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                                    • weirdfoodie@thecanadian.socialW weirdfoodie@thecanadian.social

                                      @mike @Gargron @EUCommission

                                      They want photo ID before people can post there. It's in the last paragraph of this story:
                                      🔗
                                      https://www.pcmag.com/news/w-emerges-as-x-alternative-aimed-at-combating-systemic-disinformation

                                      If I lived in Europe, I'd give them a pass.

                                      herman@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      herman@mastodon.world
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #238

                                      @mike @weirdfoodie @Gargron @EUCommission Control, control, control … They could have better called it C.

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                        We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                        Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                        And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                        lavergnetho@fediscience.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        lavergnetho@fediscience.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
                                        lavergnetho@fediscience.org
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #239

                                        @EUCommission

                                        No, not following you there. Wrong move. Also: ewwww (W is centralized, for-profit, closed-source).

                                        You are more than welcome to stay here among us and continue investing in the #fediverse.

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                          chewie@mammut.gogreenit.netC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          chewie@mammut.gogreenit.net
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #240

                                          @EUCommission I'll pass thanks, and stay on here....

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