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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

    We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

    Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

    And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

    roneyb@bolha.usR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #216

    @EUCommission If we are to seek a decentralized web we just have to be in one of many instances of the decentralized web.

    W looks like a trap: it is not open, it does not integrate with the decentralized web, it looks like a startup of big tech. I don’t see how that can enforce digital sovereignty 🤷🏼‍♂️

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    • devnull@mamot.frD devnull@mamot.fr

      @EUCommission No thanks, I wouldn't touch a proprietary, for-profit, VC-funded, surveillance capitalism, "social-media" just because you wrongly claim it's "open ecosystem"

      It's so toxic by design I wouldn't even approach it wearing level A Personal Protective Equipment…

      Let alone the fact it was named after Musk's nazi bar "X"… 🤮

      mxchara@seattle.pinkM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #217

      @devnull @EUCommission the big selling point of this new boondoggle is "verified real humans", i.e. they're demanding that people hand over their personal identities before they can use this bullshıt service

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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

        We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

        Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

        And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

        burningtyger@nrw.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        burningtyger@nrw.social
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        #218

        @EUCommission Why even take the time to announce it here. Feels like you’re not even listening to the people on Mastodon. It must have occurred to you that nobody likes this W platform here for its closed source nazi inviting behavior. Poor decision.

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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

          ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

          weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
          weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
          weirdwriter@caneandable.social
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          #219

          I am Not in the EU, but even so, I think you and others should see https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-public-institutions-and-the-theater-of-european-digital-sovereignty/ @EUCommission

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

            ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

            addison@nothing-ever.worksA This user is from outside of this forum
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            addison@nothing-ever.works
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            #220

            @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ec@ec.social-network.europa.eu this is definitively an L not a W

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

              ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

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              daemon_byte@mastodon.social
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              #221

              @EUCommission I was on the waitlist for W but I won't be signing up. They promised to be open and all they did was take open source code and close it. That doesn't build trust and if they are willing to lie before they even launch I don't trust them with my id

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              • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                @EUCommission how bizarre to be promoting a random VC-funded social network when you've barely put the same effort into promoting Mastodon. This has a shady feeling to it.

                quasit@beige.partyQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #222

                @Gina @EUCommission

                "The same" effort? Have they really done that? All I've seen are a couple of posts from them about being on Mastodon.

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                  We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                  Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                  And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                  amosmulder@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                  amosmulder@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                  amosmulder@mastodon.social
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                  #223

                  @EUCommission Yes we need independent digital spaces, and W is not one. So you're contradicting yourself.

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                    We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                    Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                    And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                    dc4dd@sueden.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dc4dd@sueden.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dc4dd@sueden.social
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                    #224

                    @EUCommission Nope!

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                      We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                      Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                      And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                      alikatze@social.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      alikatze@social.tchncs.de
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                      #225

                      @EUCommission
                      No thanks, why would I?
                      We're here. It's good and even better.
                      You chould strengthen the #fediverse by using it. There's no need for another split platform.

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                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

                        ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

                        jornfranke@social.anoxinon.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        jornfranke@social.anoxinon.de
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                        #226

                        @EUCommission no thanks W Social is not open, has waiting lists (like all failed social networks) and is not needed. All the infrastructure exists already with ActivityPub and its numerous applications.
                        You can suggest W Social to host an ActivityPub technology.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                          haploc@fedi.cr-net.beH This user is from outside of this forum
                          haploc@fedi.cr-net.beH This user is from outside of this forum
                          haploc@fedi.cr-net.be
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                          #227

                          @EUCommission W is not an alternative if it is closed-source.
                          You're heading back into a walled garden, which is then contrary to "true digital sovereignty".

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                          • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                            @EUCommission It's kind of crazy that Mastodon never got this kind of promotion and endorsement, unlike this 4 month old platform that came out of nowhere.

                            kobold@orthographieanarchist.deK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            kobold@orthographieanarchist.de
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                            #228

                            @Gargron @EUCommission I guess you did not pay enough. 😁

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                              We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                              Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                              And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                              liaizon@social.wake.stL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              liaizon@social.wake.st
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                              #229

                              @EUCommission the w stands for wtf

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                Whether here on our Mastodon server, or on ATproto with new W profile 👉 @ec.europa.eu – we look forward to staying connected with you.

                                ℹ️ http://wsocial.eu/

                                ralocycleuse@eldritch.cafeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                ralocycleuse@eldritch.cafe
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                                #230

                                @EUCommission wrong platform to brag about that, darling.

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                                • gargron@mastodon.socialG gargron@mastodon.social

                                  @EUCommission It's kind of crazy that Mastodon never got this kind of promotion and endorsement, unlike this 4 month old platform that came out of nowhere.

                                  carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  carstenfranke@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #231

                                  @Gargron
                                  It seems someone had political connections or a bunch of money to buy the political connection.

                                  @EUCommission

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                                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                    A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                    We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                    Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                    And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                    blackdragonfly@techhub.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    blackdragonfly@techhub.social
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                                    #232

                                    @EUCommission Could you just explain where W is decentralized as well as an open ecosystem? And how do you define independent?

                                    And aren’t commercial goals and public responsibility slightly conflicting interests, not that politicians seems to have a problem with that?

                                    At least the first and hopefully the last statement remains true.

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                                    • delafin@climatejustice.socialD delafin@climatejustice.social

                                      @Gargron Mastodon is obviously not the kind of venture capital luring tech that the EU is salivating over @EUCommission

                                      herman@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      herman@mastodon.world
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                                      #233

                                      @EUCommission @Gargron @delafin Mastodon is not centrally controlled. That is the problem for the #EU. They want control, verification.

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                                      • blackdragonfly@techhub.socialB blackdragonfly@techhub.social

                                        @EUCommission Could you just explain where W is decentralized as well as an open ecosystem? And how do you define independent?

                                        And aren’t commercial goals and public responsibility slightly conflicting interests, not that politicians seems to have a problem with that?

                                        At least the first and hopefully the last statement remains true.

                                        aeris@firefish.imirhil.frA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        aeris@firefish.imirhil.fr
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                                        #234

                                        @blackDragonfly@techhub.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu It seems to be based on ATProtocol, a fully decentralized and opensource one.
                                        https://atproto.com/

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces.

                                          We believe true digital sovereignty thrives on a competitive, contestable, open ecosystem where diverse platforms co-exist.

                                          Today, we’re expanding our presence to W, the new social media. By being on W, we want to boost alternatives and support all efforts toward a decentralised web.

                                          And we continue to invest into our presence on the Fediverse!

                                          krazykitty@mamot.frK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          krazykitty@mamot.fr
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #235

                                          @EUCommission read the room

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