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Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

    We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

    One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

    We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

    More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

    nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14

    @EUCommission Now standardize USB-C...

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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

      We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

      One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

      We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

      More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

      ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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      ozzelot@mstdn.social
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      #15

      @EUCommission
      Nice image, it's a shame my cables can still get tangled because I will still have more devices that need charging simultaneously.

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      • dambranslv@toot.lvD dambranslv@toot.lv

        @EUCommission USB-C on both ends, right?

        ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @dambranslv
        And regular PD with no manufacturer enhanced crap, right?
        @EUCommission

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        • mmalc@mastodon.socialM mmalc@mastodon.social

          @EUCommission

          "One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.”

          Per the article @jnfingerle posted, unfortunately that's simply not true

          (See also: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/11/usb-c-is-not-universal/680502/)

          There are multiple types of USB-C cable with different capabilities, and they're not interchangeable. Previously it was obvious that you couldn't plug device-A into power adapter B; now the connection may fail for no obvious reason.

          What's needed now is clear, standardised labeling. It’d be great if you could work on that.

          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @mmalc @EUCommission @jnfingerle
          Impossible to buy a full USB-C cable in local shops. They are all only wired for USB-2, so no USB-DP, some USB charging modes don't work and no USB-3 speeds.

          Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works.

          Some laptop need more than 20W (typical chargers are only 10W!). Some need more than the 100W (high power).
          All laptops > 20W should have also a dedicated charge port.

          mmalc@mastodon.socialM hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizzaL 3 Replies Last reply
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          • purple_lilith@mastodon.socialP purple_lilith@mastodon.social

            @EUCommission How to tell the difference between charging cables and data transfer cables?

            saskboy@mastodon.ccS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @Purple_Lilith @EUCommission Colour is supposed to help, but it's sadly not standardized very well.

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

              We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

              One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

              We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

              More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

              raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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              raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
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              #19

              @EUCommission
              It might make sense for phone and small gadgets. USB-C is a disaster for larger tablets, tools and laptops for charging and knowing what functions are supported.

              Makers use it as an excuse to have only one or two USB ports (a C and A) on the laptop and one on tablet. A bag of dongles & USB hub. Often unable to charge and use external USB-3 drive or screen.

              Good intentions. Stupid implementation, partly because USB-C is a mess..

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                tofu@is-a.catT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #20

                @EUCommission so is magsafe banned? I hope it is, that port is a waste of space on these soda can paper weight laptops

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                  We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                  One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                  We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                  More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                  jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  jmaris@eupolicy.social
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                  #21

                  @EUCommission

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                  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                    @EUCommission
                    It might make sense for phone and small gadgets. USB-C is a disaster for larger tablets, tools and laptops for charging and knowing what functions are supported.

                    Makers use it as an excuse to have only one or two USB ports (a C and A) on the laptop and one on tablet. A bag of dongles & USB hub. Often unable to charge and use external USB-3 drive or screen.

                    Good intentions. Stupid implementation, partly because USB-C is a mess..

                    jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #22

                    @raymaccarthy @EUCommission The EU only mandates USBC for charging, it doesn't require manufacturers to add or not add other ports.

                    I also fail to see how USBc is a disaster for tablets and laptops... it works fine ?

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                    • derbruesseler@chaos.socialD derbruesseler@chaos.social

                      @EUCommission Actually, not quite. I still have devices that use micro and mini USB, and there are plenty of devices that require USB-A to USB-C cables for charging. On top of that, devices need different power adapters—5W, 15W, 20W, 35W, or even more. And cables don’t last forever. So, what’s the real advantage?

                      jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #23

                      @derbruesseler @EUCommission Key word being "starting from now", and any USB-C charger will be able to do different wattages.

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                      • andre123@snowfan.itA andre123@snowfan.it

                        @EUCommission

                        Great, now what about quickly deploying open source in EU as an european standard ?
                        Linux and open source software; free and open source. And no AI slop and data centers you have to hide consumptions in EU...

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                        #24

                        @andre123 @EUCommission one step at a time (progress is being made!)

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                        • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                          @mmalc @EUCommission @jnfingerle
                          Impossible to buy a full USB-C cable in local shops. They are all only wired for USB-2, so no USB-DP, some USB charging modes don't work and no USB-3 speeds.

                          Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works.

                          Some laptop need more than 20W (typical chargers are only 10W!). Some need more than the 100W (high power).
                          All laptops > 20W should have also a dedicated charge port.

                          mmalc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #25

                          @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                          "Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works."

                          Q.E.D.

                          If you're interested to know why, and what you might perhaps do about it, this article may be useful:

                          https://plugable.com/blogs/news/understanding-usb-c-charging-issues

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                          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                            We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                            One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                            We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                            More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                            #26

                            @EUCommission Despite all the criticism in the comments, I believe this to be a good first step. I already saw improvements in my daily life thanks to this regulation.

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                              We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                              One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                              We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                              More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                              #27

                              @EUCommission Ma sto cazzo di open source manco nei sogni!

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                              • tofu@is-a.catT tofu@is-a.cat

                                @EUCommission so is magsafe banned? I hope it is, that port is a waste of space on these soda can paper weight laptops

                                aliceif@mkultra.x27.oneA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #28
                                @tofu@is-a.cat @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu up to 240W, USB-C with USB-PD must be available, this is no exclusivity rule.

                                Which is a good thing btw, some 200W Gorilla of a "Laptop" I'd rather charge from a barrel plug in daily use than through USB-C (not that I own one). Actual configuration that exists, by the way, high power barrel plug + less power USB-C (Thunderbolt), like on an "Acer Predator Helios Neo 16S AI".
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                                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                  We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                  One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                  We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                  More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                                  steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #29

                                  @EUCommission USB-C cables magically don't tangle?

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                                  • mmalc@mastodon.socialM mmalc@mastodon.social

                                    @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                                    "Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works."

                                    Q.E.D.

                                    If you're interested to know why, and what you might perhaps do about it, this article may be useful:

                                    https://plugable.com/blogs/news/understanding-usb-c-charging-issues

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                                    #30

                                    @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                                    One of my own examples:

                                    VW put USB-C outlets all over the place in the ID.Buzz. Excellent, very considerate.
                                    I got a dash-cam with a USB-C charging port…

                                    I tried literally over a dozen different USB-C-to USB-C cables trying to get the cam to power up. Each failed.

                                    What did work was putting a USB-C to USB-A adapter into the outlet on the car, and plugging the cam into the adapter using its USB-A to USB-C cable. 🤦‍♂️

                                    #USB
                                    #USBC
                                    #Cables

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                      We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                      One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                      We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                      More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                                      #31

                                      @EUCommission
                                      I see from your diagram that you have also defeated entropy. Does this mean that my USB-C cables are in danger of slipping back through time unexpectedly?
                                      #TimeTravel #entropy #USBC

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                        We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                        One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                        We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                        More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                                        #32

                                        @EUCommission Good lord people. This is some first class whiney (*)splaining.

                                        Please feel free to do nothing if you must, thou purest of souls.

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                                        • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                                          @EUCommission Now standardize USB-C...

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                                          #33

                                          @nazokiyoubinbou 😂👍🏻

                                          @EUCommission

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