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Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

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  • jnfingerle@social.saarlandJ jnfingerle@social.saarland

    @EUCommission
    https://www.anker.com/ca/blogs/cables/usb-c-charging-cable-types

    mmalc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    mmalc@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #6

    @EUCommission

    "One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.”

    Per the article @jnfingerle posted, unfortunately that's simply not true

    (See also: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/11/usb-c-is-not-universal/680502/)

    There are multiple types of USB-C cable with different capabilities, and they're not interchangeable. Previously it was obvious that you couldn't plug device-A into power adapter B; now the connection may fail for no obvious reason.

    What's needed now is clear, standardised labeling. It’d be great if you could work on that.

    raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR david_bardos@mementomori.socialD 2 Replies Last reply
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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

      We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

      One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

      We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

      More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

      fabienmarry@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      fabienmarry@mastodon.social
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      #7

      @stroughtonsmith Seems the illustrator doesn't know that mini-jack doesn't deliver power…

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      • dambranslv@toot.lvD dambranslv@toot.lv

        @EUCommission USB-C on both ends, right?

        sibrosan@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @dambranslv @EUCommission

        I think it is not required to have USB-C on both ends of the laptop.

        jago@mementomori.socialJ 1 Reply Last reply
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        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

          We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

          One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

          We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

          More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

          vieiro@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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          #9

          @EUCommission

          Thanks!

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

            We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

            One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

            We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

            More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

            purple_lilith@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            purple_lilith@mastodon.social
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            #10

            @EUCommission How to tell the difference between charging cables and data transfer cables?

            saskboy@mastodon.ccS 1 Reply Last reply
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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

              We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

              One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

              We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

              More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

              andre123@snowfan.itA This user is from outside of this forum
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              andre123@snowfan.it
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #11

              @EUCommission

              Great, now what about quickly deploying open source in EU as an european standard ?
              Linux and open source software; free and open source. And no AI slop and data centers you have to hide consumptions in EU...

              jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ 1 Reply Last reply
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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                derbruesseler@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #12

                @EUCommission Actually, not quite. I still have devices that use micro and mini USB, and there are plenty of devices that require USB-A to USB-C cables for charging. On top of that, devices need different power adapters—5W, 15W, 20W, 35W, or even more. And cables don’t last forever. So, what’s the real advantage?

                jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH 2 Replies Last reply
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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                  We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                  One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                  We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                  More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                  pitchingniblick@mastodonapp.ukP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  pitchingniblick@mastodonapp.uk
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                  #13

                  @EUCommission
                  I do prefer magsafe for charging.

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                    We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                    One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                    We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                    More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                    nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
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                    #14

                    @EUCommission Now standardize USB-C...

                    ewos1986@norden.socialE 1 Reply Last reply
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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                      We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                      One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                      We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                      More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                      ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      ozzelot@mstdn.social
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                      #15

                      @EUCommission
                      Nice image, it's a shame my cables can still get tangled because I will still have more devices that need charging simultaneously.

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                      • dambranslv@toot.lvD dambranslv@toot.lv

                        @EUCommission USB-C on both ends, right?

                        ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        ozzelot@mstdn.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #16

                        @dambranslv
                        And regular PD with no manufacturer enhanced crap, right?
                        @EUCommission

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                        • mmalc@mastodon.socialM mmalc@mastodon.social

                          @EUCommission

                          "One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.”

                          Per the article @jnfingerle posted, unfortunately that's simply not true

                          (See also: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/11/usb-c-is-not-universal/680502/)

                          There are multiple types of USB-C cable with different capabilities, and they're not interchangeable. Previously it was obvious that you couldn't plug device-A into power adapter B; now the connection may fail for no obvious reason.

                          What's needed now is clear, standardised labeling. It’d be great if you could work on that.

                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                          raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
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                          #17

                          @mmalc @EUCommission @jnfingerle
                          Impossible to buy a full USB-C cable in local shops. They are all only wired for USB-2, so no USB-DP, some USB charging modes don't work and no USB-3 speeds.

                          Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works.

                          Some laptop need more than 20W (typical chargers are only 10W!). Some need more than the 100W (high power).
                          All laptops > 20W should have also a dedicated charge port.

                          mmalc@mastodon.socialM hazelnot@sunbeam.cityH lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizzaL 3 Replies Last reply
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                          • purple_lilith@mastodon.socialP purple_lilith@mastodon.social

                            @EUCommission How to tell the difference between charging cables and data transfer cables?

                            saskboy@mastodon.ccS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            saskboy@mastodon.cc
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #18

                            @Purple_Lilith @EUCommission Colour is supposed to help, but it's sadly not standardized very well.

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                              We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                              One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                              We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                              More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                              raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #19

                              @EUCommission
                              It might make sense for phone and small gadgets. USB-C is a disaster for larger tablets, tools and laptops for charging and knowing what functions are supported.

                              Makers use it as an excuse to have only one or two USB ports (a C and A) on the laptop and one on tablet. A bag of dongles & USB hub. Often unable to charge and use external USB-3 drive or screen.

                              Good intentions. Stupid implementation, partly because USB-C is a mess..

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

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                                #20

                                @EUCommission so is magsafe banned? I hope it is, that port is a waste of space on these soda can paper weight laptops

                                aliceif@mkultra.x27.oneA thibaultmol@en.osm.townT 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  Starting today, USB-C is the mandatory charging standard for all laptops sold in the EU.

                                  We are putting an end to cable clutter and unnecessary costs for citizens.

                                  One cable, any brand, less electronic waste.

                                  We are delivering a simpler, more sustainable digital future for Europe.

                                  More: https://link.europa.eu/QDMFTh

                                  jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  jmaris@eupolicy.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #21

                                  @EUCommission

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                                  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                    @EUCommission
                                    It might make sense for phone and small gadgets. USB-C is a disaster for larger tablets, tools and laptops for charging and knowing what functions are supported.

                                    Makers use it as an excuse to have only one or two USB ports (a C and A) on the laptop and one on tablet. A bag of dongles & USB hub. Often unable to charge and use external USB-3 drive or screen.

                                    Good intentions. Stupid implementation, partly because USB-C is a mess..

                                    jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #22

                                    @raymaccarthy @EUCommission The EU only mandates USBC for charging, it doesn't require manufacturers to add or not add other ports.

                                    I also fail to see how USBc is a disaster for tablets and laptops... it works fine ?

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                                    • derbruesseler@chaos.socialD derbruesseler@chaos.social

                                      @EUCommission Actually, not quite. I still have devices that use micro and mini USB, and there are plenty of devices that require USB-A to USB-C cables for charging. On top of that, devices need different power adapters—5W, 15W, 20W, 35W, or even more. And cables don’t last forever. So, what’s the real advantage?

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                                      jmaris@eupolicy.social
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                                      #23

                                      @derbruesseler @EUCommission Key word being "starting from now", and any USB-C charger will be able to do different wattages.

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                                      • andre123@snowfan.itA andre123@snowfan.it

                                        @EUCommission

                                        Great, now what about quickly deploying open source in EU as an european standard ?
                                        Linux and open source software; free and open source. And no AI slop and data centers you have to hide consumptions in EU...

                                        jmaris@eupolicy.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        jmaris@eupolicy.social
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                                        #24

                                        @andre123 @EUCommission one step at a time (progress is being made!)

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                                        • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                          @mmalc @EUCommission @jnfingerle
                                          Impossible to buy a full USB-C cable in local shops. They are all only wired for USB-2, so no USB-DP, some USB charging modes don't work and no USB-3 speeds.

                                          Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works.

                                          Some laptop need more than 20W (typical chargers are only 10W!). Some need more than the 100W (high power).
                                          All laptops > 20W should have also a dedicated charge port.

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #25

                                          @raymaccarthy @EUCommission @jnfingerle

                                          "Also none of my USB-C chargers or PC USB-C port will charge one USB-C device I have, only a USB-A port on PC or charger works."

                                          Q.E.D.

                                          If you're interested to know why, and what you might perhaps do about it, this article may be useful:

                                          https://plugable.com/blogs/news/understanding-usb-c-charging-issues

                                          mmalc@mastodon.socialM red_rooster@sueden.socialR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR 3 Replies Last reply
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