GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name.
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@clayote We do have a proof-of-concept merge request to change the name: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/merge_requests/2786
(And then we immediately got uproar from the other side of itt: https://lemmy.world/post/46080825)
I think it will happen, but it's an involved process with a lot of things to watch for (like something taking over GIMP.org and using it for malware).
@CmykStudent "From GIMP team: We are NOT rebranding GIMP"
i was talking about the branding...
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@CmykStudent I mean, I hope that pans out, and that it pays off for the project
@baldur I believe it already has - we have some active design volunteers who have really contributed to implementing better UX going forward and pointing out existing improvements.
There's some "bigger" design work going on too which we hope to implement as it is finalized, but a lot of papercut UX issues (and larger) are being corrected already.
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@CmykStudent "From GIMP team: We are NOT rebranding GIMP"
i was talking about the branding...
@clayote That was in response to the social media storm I linked (200+ posts!) - it's a proof-of-concept right now and we didn't want people to get worked up about a particular name being selected.
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
@baldur my wife is a painter and a graphic designer, and she swears by krita.
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
@baldur not a week go by without me saying “well yes, it has the look and feel of open source, but…”.
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@baldur I believe it already has - we have some active design volunteers who have really contributed to implementing better UX going forward and pointing out existing improvements.
There's some "bigger" design work going on too which we hope to implement as it is finalized, but a lot of papercut UX issues (and larger) are being corrected already.
@CmykStudent Sounds good.
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I found GnuImp so unintuitive and clunky, and it's ugly too. Krita is a dream to use and it does everything and it looks great. No contest.
@emma_cogdev @baldur I switched from GnuImp (I refuse to use the "official" name) to Krita and it's so much better.
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
@baldur the one thing that, i've been told, somehow reduces the gnu image manipulation program's usage pains is applying the photoshop-compatible keyboard shortcut scheme.
but that's basically only an option for people who already know photoshop by rote and can go by without looking for knobs and buttons in the ui.
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
Krita is wonderful to use. I haven't used it too much, but it's now my go-to recommemdation for folks who want to try out digital art.
I remember trying GIMP back in college and it really sucked for me in particular, so I settled on something called FireAlpaca, which worked way better for me. Krita is better than FireAlpaca. I'd definitely recommend trying it.
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
Graphite - Your procedural toolbox for 2D content creation
Still alpha, but definitely something to look out for.
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@baldur I learned the old GIMP UI after some years, and then theu changed it and made even more confusing...
It was programmer-oriented from the beginning.
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@baldur if you need something less Illustrator...ive, I can recommend Pinta
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
@baldur @zzt Krita is actually quite cool. I haven't used it for anything "productiony" yet as my medium is mostly photography and image processing for coding projects, and I've had a stable workflow with Affinity and Nikon tools for a while.
But Krita's documentation is fantastic, and I'd definitely be using it if my work was more focused on the art itself, I'd definitely be spending quality time with it.
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
@baldur one more vote for giving krita a shot!
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
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RE: https://mas.to/@zzt/116748965255528053
GIMP‘s hostility to users actually being able to productively use it is legendary as is its disdain for people showing concern about its name. It’s genuinely poisoned the well for the adoption of OSS creativity software.
(I need to try out Krita, though, which looks much more solid.)
@baldur krita IS much more solid and easy to use. Source: decades long user of drawing software such as art studio, deluxe paint, brilliance and Photoshop.
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@baldur my 16-yo daughter who in all her life has used only #Linux and #FreeSoftware prefer #Krita and that's fine.
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The problem with GIMP's user interface is that it doesn't appear to be focused on any other group of users' needs either, though.
GIMP's UI just sort of exists. It doesn't appear to have been designed with any particular target group of users in mind.
