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  3. Mastodon has a built-in system to prevent you seeing the same post boosted again and again.

Mastodon has a built-in system to prevent you seeing the same post boosted again and again.

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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Mastodon has a built-in system to prevent you seeing the same post boosted again and again. However, it allows boosts to reappear if 40 other posts have passed through your main timeline, and this is why you may see the same boost repeated.

    As the Fediverse is now much busier, Mastodon's devs are raising this number to 80 other posts (technical details are at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/39784). This should hopefully be in the next update.

    (Thanks to @nitrml for pointing this out 🙏 )

    #FediTips #Mastodon

    atarifrosch@fedifreu.deA starlily@mastodon.socialS kyonshi@dice.campK dheepsinque@susanklopfertruth.comD 4 Replies Last reply
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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      Mastodon has a built-in system to prevent you seeing the same post boosted again and again. However, it allows boosts to reappear if 40 other posts have passed through your main timeline, and this is why you may see the same boost repeated.

      As the Fediverse is now much busier, Mastodon's devs are raising this number to 80 other posts (technical details are at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/39784). This should hopefully be in the next update.

      (Thanks to @nitrml for pointing this out 🙏 )

      #FediTips #Mastodon

      atarifrosch@fedifreu.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @FediTips @nitrml As people follow different numbers of other accounts – why not give them the freedom to chose how many other posts later a boost can appear again? 🤔

      jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ hyc@mastodon.socialH masukomi@connectified.comM 3 Replies Last reply
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      • atarifrosch@fedifreu.deA atarifrosch@fedifreu.de

        @FediTips @nitrml As people follow different numbers of other accounts – why not give them the freedom to chose how many other posts later a boost can appear again? 🤔

        jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @atarifrosch @FediTips @nitrml This – I'd set my limit way higher.

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        • atarifrosch@fedifreu.deA atarifrosch@fedifreu.de

          @FediTips @nitrml As people follow different numbers of other accounts – why not give them the freedom to chose how many other posts later a boost can appear again? 🤔

          hyc@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @atarifrosch @FediTips @nitrml how about using a timelimit instead of (or maybe in addition to) a post count?

          I really don't want to see multiple boosts of the same post within 24 hours. But maybe after 168 hours would be acceptable.

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          • atarifrosch@fedifreu.deA atarifrosch@fedifreu.de

            @FediTips @nitrml As people follow different numbers of other accounts – why not give them the freedom to chose how many other posts later a boost can appear again? 🤔

            masukomi@connectified.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @atarifrosch @FediTips @nitrml or just make it a % of the posts per hour on the given server or timeline.

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            • masukomi@connectified.comM masukomi@connectified.com

              @atarifrosch @FediTips @nitrml or just make it a % of the posts per hour on the given server or timeline.

              feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @masukomi @atarifrosch @jernej__s @hyc

              These suggestions have already been made by many people (including myself) on the related issue at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/18693 so the developers are aware of them.

              I'm not sure why they are going with a simple number change, but guessing that this is quicker and easier to do (and possibly uses fewer server resources?).

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                @masukomi @atarifrosch @jernej__s @hyc

                These suggestions have already been made by many people (including myself) on the related issue at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/18693 so the developers are aware of them.

                I'm not sure why they are going with a simple number change, but guessing that this is quicker and easier to do (and possibly uses fewer server resources?).

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                #7

                @FediTips @atarifrosch @nitrml Speaking as a Rails dev, there are many ways to do this calculation and have it be trivial. Not only wouldn't it be much during the query, but you could also have a process that runs daily to calculate the average posts per hour in local and federated feeds and just go off of that pre-calculated number for the rest of the day.

                This is just a lazy short-sighted solution.

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                • jernej__s@infosec.exchangeJ jernej__s@infosec.exchange

                  @atarifrosch @FediTips @nitrml This – I'd set my limit way higher.

                  quinze@corteximplant.comQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @jernej__s @atarifrosch @FediTips this deduplication work is consuming server memory, which is why they released the feature with a conservative limit of 40 items and are increasing it now. Allowing users to raise it a lot could cause instances to crash.

                  This should indeed be configurable by the instance admins instead of hardcoded, but that's unfortunately a common thing in the Mastodon code (max post length, pool option count... changing them requires modifying the source code).

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    Mastodon has a built-in system to prevent you seeing the same post boosted again and again. However, it allows boosts to reappear if 40 other posts have passed through your main timeline, and this is why you may see the same boost repeated.

                    As the Fediverse is now much busier, Mastodon's devs are raising this number to 80 other posts (technical details are at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/39784). This should hopefully be in the next update.

                    (Thanks to @nitrml for pointing this out 🙏 )

                    #FediTips #Mastodon

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                    #9

                    @FediTips @nitrml THANK THE GODS!
                    I am sick of having to mute people for a day when their post is boosted 1487 times.
                    Maybe this will help. Maybe.

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      Mastodon has a built-in system to prevent you seeing the same post boosted again and again. However, it allows boosts to reappear if 40 other posts have passed through your main timeline, and this is why you may see the same boost repeated.

                      As the Fediverse is now much busier, Mastodon's devs are raising this number to 80 other posts (technical details are at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/39784). This should hopefully be in the next update.

                      (Thanks to @nitrml for pointing this out 🙏 )

                      #FediTips #Mastodon

                      kyonshi@dice.campK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @FediTips @nitrml so there IS an algorithm

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        Mastodon has a built-in system to prevent you seeing the same post boosted again and again. However, it allows boosts to reappear if 40 other posts have passed through your main timeline, and this is why you may see the same boost repeated.

                        As the Fediverse is now much busier, Mastodon's devs are raising this number to 80 other posts (technical details are at https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/39784). This should hopefully be in the next update.

                        (Thanks to @nitrml for pointing this out 🙏 )

                        #FediTips #Mastodon

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                        #11

                        @FediTips @nitrml Gr8 feditip thx!

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                        • kyonshi@dice.campK kyonshi@dice.camp

                          @FediTips @nitrml so there IS an algorithm

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                          #12

                          @kyonshi

                          Not really, it's just an option at Preferences > Other > Group Boosts which you can switch off or on. You still see the same boosts either way, it just determines how often you see them 🙂

                          Technically anything running on a computer is an algorithm, but most people don't use that meaning?

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