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Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

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  • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

    @lisamelton They should of course be free to program a server that offers an algorithmic feed if they want to. But keep that shit out of my server, i trust the fully human algorithm more!

    mikebabcock@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #98

    @gimulnautti @lisamelton I know its swimming upstream around here, but this smacks of privilege.
    Whether its contacts or tech knowledge, not everyone can find what they want for their feed so easily. *most* of the people I've invited to Mastodon have bounced off because they can't find anyone to follow easily and there's no algorithm to feed them starter accounts.
    We all need to not harass people for wanting something that makes their lives easier.
    #socialMedia #recommendations #onboarding

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    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

      merveilleux@mk.absturztau.beM This user is from outside of this forum
      merveilleux@mk.absturztau.beM This user is from outside of this forum
      merveilleux@mk.absturztau.be
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #99

      @lisamelton@mastodon.social What about an opt-in algorithmic feed similar to the one on Bluesky?

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      • merveilleux@mk.absturztau.beM merveilleux@mk.absturztau.be

        @lisamelton@mastodon.social What about an opt-in algorithmic feed similar to the one on Bluesky?

        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
        lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #100

        @Merveilleux As long as it's not the default and it's on your own server, I think that's fine.

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        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #101

          @nosaj You might be surprised but there are an assload of bots on the Fedi that do that already. 🤷‍♀️

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          • afoucart@social.sciences.reA afoucart@social.sciences.re

            @lisamelton and a "popular things algorithm" would not solve the actual issue of missing posts from not particularly popular accounts who nonetheless post super interesting stuff, especially if they are not in your timezone.

            For that, the best solution I found is RSS. If there's someone whose posts I don't want to miss, I just add their RSS feed to my reader, then I'm sure to see them even if I only log in ten hours later and nobody boosts it. Being in control like that is nice.

            cavyherd@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #102

            @AFoucart @lisamelton

            I've used the notification function to some good effect here, but that quickly gets overwhelming.

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            • dusk@todon.euD dusk@todon.eu

              @lisamelton

              *stands on desk*

              We ARE the algorithm!

              https://todon.eu/@dusk/114699673477597973

              continuity0@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              continuity0@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #103

              @dusk @lisamelton *Algorythm

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                sea1am@mastodon.social
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                #104

                @nosaj @lisamelton

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                • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                  Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                  Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                  Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                  We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                  Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                  bluewave_kiwi@mastodon.nzB This user is from outside of this forum
                  bluewave_kiwi@mastodon.nzB This user is from outside of this forum
                  bluewave_kiwi@mastodon.nz
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #105

                  @lisamelton

                  Yep, they can just make an account called "Jackhole Techbro Default Feed", fill with slop, and people who want to can follow it.

                  Job done.

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                  • sollat@masto.aiS sollat@masto.ai

                    @lisamelton
                    One of the (many) reasons I left twitter (both times) was because it was becoming harder and harder to set it to a chronological feed. I like my doomscrolling to be IN ORDER.

                    joycebell@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #106

                    @sollat @lisamelton ✋Me too!

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                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                      Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                      Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                      Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                      We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                      Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                      N This user is from outside of this forum
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                      neverhurry@mastodon.sdf.org
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                      #107

                      @lisamelton Having no algorithm is the best feature and likely indicates said techbro doesn't like how human's actually interact naturally.

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                      • mikebabcock@floss.socialM mikebabcock@floss.social

                        @negative12dollarbill @lisamelton unsolicited advice: have you tried https://phanpy.social/ ? Its a different interface for your mastodon server and it has a very nice alternative feed you might appreciate.
                        I am not associated, just discovered it myself in the last week. fyi. Ignore if irrelevant 🙂

                        negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #108

                        @mikebabcock @lisamelton I have tried it actually. There's also an opinionated iOS app, Sora, but as I say, I don't feel the need.

                        What I would like to fix is the Explore tab

                        https://apps.apple.com/au/app/sorasns-for-mastodon-bluesky/id6754866904

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                        • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                          Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                          Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                          Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                          We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                          Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                          fgbjr@indieweb.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                          fgbjr@indieweb.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                          fgbjr@indieweb.social
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                          #109

                          @lisamelton 💯 The revolution will be synchronous.

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                          • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                            Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                            Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                            Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                            We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                            Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                            dazrunner@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            dazrunner@mastodon.social
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                            #110

                            @lisamelton i'll play devil's advocate on this one. I'm a #mastodon noob. So maybe i'm doing something wrong.

                            My feed features numerous low-effort posts with no community engagement. One after the other. Is there room for improvement in the algorithm?

                            I feel that labelling users who voluntarily provide feedback - as 'jackholes', is unnecessary. ( with all due respect 😉 )

                            My 2 cents.

                            david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH bammerlaan@mastodon.nlB kinsey@cyberpunk.gayK 4 Replies Last reply
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                            • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                              Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                              Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                              Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                              We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                              Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                              xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                              xs4me2@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #111

                              @lisamelton

                              Exactly this indeed…

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                              • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                dezon@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dezon@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                                dezon@chaos.social
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                                #112

                                @lisamelton you are right! Just found out that following hashtags are a great way to get interest insights in my feed too 🙂

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                                • F fxiz@mastodon.social

                                  @lisamelton people can be so clueless yet so confident at the same time. Truly amusing.

                                  'jackhole techbro'? I rather be respectful to the tech people as a community than call them with demeaning names. I mean if things are so bad for me than I sure can go back to my good old letter posting. Has no algorithm, does not come from 'techbro', does not need algorithm, no ai, employees my local postman, etc. And yeah, "making friends".

                                  Everything is fine till it fits the propoganda, is it?

                                  processparsnip@mastodon.ieP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  processparsnip@mastodon.ie
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                                  #113

                                  @Fxiz fam. Buddy. Pal.

                                  Lisa Melton *is* tech people.

                                  Please take several seats.

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                                  • continuity0@mastodon.socialC continuity0@mastodon.social

                                    @dusk @lisamelton *Algorythm

                                    processparsnip@mastodon.ieP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    processparsnip@mastodon.ie
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #114

                                    @continuity0 allegory them
                                    @dusk @lisamelton

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                                    • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                      @APBBlue Will do! 🫡

                                      processparsnip@mastodon.ieP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      processparsnip@mastodon.ie
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #115

                                      @lisamelton yeah, I completely missed the post *but at least looking through your replies gave me so many dudes to block*

                                      omg.

                                      @APBBlue

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                                      • lisamelton@mastodon.socialL lisamelton@mastodon.social

                                        Recently I read a post by some jackhole techbro who wants a default automatic feed algorithm here just like Big Social™.

                                        Opening the door for AI bullshit is not even the worst part of this idea.

                                        Folks, all of us here ARE the algorithm. Personal curation is a feature, not a bug.

                                        We make Mastodon awesome by following people and boosting what we find meaningful, significant or just cool. That's how it works.

                                        Let's keep making friends. Let's keep sharing. Let's keep Mastodon alive. Together. 💖

                                        tagaziel@meow.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        tagaziel@meow.social
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                                        #116

                                        @lisamelton I follow people here because there's no bullshit algorithm. Jfc what is it with these braindead people.

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                                        • haliphax@hachyderm.ioH haliphax@hachyderm.io

                                          @lisamelton Nah, I'd love it if people that post only when I'm asleep, or people that only post occasionally get bubbled up so that I can read their stuff and not have it buried by folks that post several times a day, every day. "Algorithm" isn't an inherently naughty word.

                                          tim@d20.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #117

                                          @haliphax @lisamelton

                                          Agreed, at the end of the day even the ordered by time list of posts we have now is an "algorithm"

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