Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.
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@Gina we'd both choose very differently but it's so fun to see a friend with this exciting choice/adventure in front of them
🫶@Gina from the cities I have visited, (and actually could see myself in), Lisbon is what comes to mind for your outline of needs/wants
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@Gina why do Italians hate Italy for living?
@casparvdburgh fhe economic situation isn't great, unfortunately.
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@manfredzielinski @Gina Don’t underestimate Salamanca. Ancient university town with international vibes
@manfredzielinski @Gina They have a local airport and it’s not too far from Madrid. The Ávila ranges are awesome for nature hikes
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@Gina @elricofmelnibone @madalex @becha if I may dare to dream, I have always¹ wanted to co-found a floating intentional community on the water in the Mediterranean like a *Free City* perhaps with Italy or Spain as a host, but with less libertarianism than the broader movement.
@travisfw @Gina @elricofmelnibone @madalex theatres China Mievile book about that
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France still seems nice as well.
@Gina Málaga?
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@casparvdburgh fhe economic situation isn't great, unfortunately.
@Gina ah yes, that rings a bell.
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@Gina Possibly the only way to get a sub-€500k house with a garden.
@VincentTunru @Gina sofia (bulgaria)?
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@VincentTunru lol that would be hilarious. But then I'd live in Drenthe or Limburg.
Edit: also yes, Slovenia looks awesome. Very green and mountainous.
@Gina @VincentTunru Slovenia makes excellent wine... Just saying.
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Okay so, I'm still not 100% sure whether I'm making the right choice. I always thought I'd end up in a nice farm house in France, but because of tax reasons France is not an option. And because of weather reasons the whole of Northern Europe isn't an option
So it basically comes down to Spain
or Italy. 
Edit: I'm staying in Europe to minimise timezone differences. #moveabroad
@Gina is france different than other EU countries tax wise?
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You know what else doesn't help? Italy
being beautiful, but every Italian expat in Amsterdam that I've ever met saying they hate it and that they would never recommend anyone to move there 🥲On the other hand, Spain
is awesome but has an insane housing crisis atm. Also unbearably hot in most places.The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain
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The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain
@Gina 1.6ha sounds good. How much is the rent?
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@Gina 1.6ha sounds good. How much is the rent?
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@fedops fortunately I'm used to Amsterdam rental prices
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@Gina oof.
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@fedops fortunately I'm used to Amsterdam rental prices
*sobs*@Gina way more than what we paid in monthly installments for the house. Ok, that was 20 years ago but still.
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@VincentTunru lol that would be hilarious. But then I'd live in Drenthe or Limburg.
Edit: also yes, Slovenia looks awesome. Very green and mountainous.
@Gina @VincentTunru Ljubljana is a charming university town with incredible views of the Julian Alps just to the north.
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@willi Greece is amazing, were it not that a lot of places feel very bare because all the young and educated people either moved to Athens or abroad. Athens was a vibe but way too big and busy.
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The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain
@Gina How many donkeys?
---> goose meme.
