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  3. Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.

Alright now that I shared my awesome new job, I can finally share with you how moving abroad is going.

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  • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

    Okay so, I'm still not 100% sure whether I'm making the right choice. I always thought I'd end up in a nice farm house in France, but because of tax reasons France is not an option. And because of weather reasons the whole of Northern Europe isn't an option 🌧

    So it basically comes down to Spain 🇪🇸 or Italy. 🇮🇹

    Edit: I'm staying in Europe to minimise timezone differences. #moveabroad

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    @Gina is france different than other EU countries tax wise?

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    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

      You know what else doesn't help? Italy 🇮🇹 being beautiful, but every Italian expat in Amsterdam that I've ever met saying they hate it and that they would never recommend anyone to move there 🥲

      On the other hand, Spain 🇪🇸 is awesome but has an insane housing crisis atm. Also unbearably hot in most places.

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      #177

      The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain

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      • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

        The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain

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        #178

        @Gina 1.6ha sounds good. How much is the rent?

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        • fedops@fosstodon.orgF fedops@fosstodon.org

          @Gina 1.6ha sounds good. How much is the rent?

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          #179

          @fedops €2500 💸
          https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/97642711/?utm_medium=socialmedia&utm_campaign=private_sendadtofriend&utm_source=notifications

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          • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

            @fedops €2500 💸
            https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/97642711/?utm_medium=socialmedia&utm_campaign=private_sendadtofriend&utm_source=notifications

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            #180

            @Gina @fedops You pay them rent or they pay you for your work as stable hand? 😆

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            • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

              @fedops €2500 💸
              https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/97642711/?utm_medium=socialmedia&utm_campaign=private_sendadtofriend&utm_source=notifications

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              #181

              @fedops fortunately I'm used to Amsterdam rental prices 😀 *sobs*

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              • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                @fedops €2500 💸
                https://www.idealista.com/inmueble/97642711/?utm_medium=socialmedia&utm_campaign=private_sendadtofriend&utm_source=notifications

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                #182

                @Gina oof.

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                • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                  @fedops fortunately I'm used to Amsterdam rental prices 😀 *sobs*

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                  #183

                  @Gina way more than what we paid in monthly installments for the house. Ok, that was 20 years ago but still.

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                  • yngmar@social.tchncs.deY yngmar@social.tchncs.de

                    @Gina @fedops You pay them rent or they pay you for your work as stable hand? 😆

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                    #184

                    @yngmar @Gina you pay them for the privilege of being a stable hand. Plus you either make enough hay for them or have to pay for that also. 😄

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                    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                      @VincentTunru lol that would be hilarious. But then I'd live in Drenthe or Limburg.

                      Edit: also yes, Slovenia looks awesome. Very green and mountainous.

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                      #185

                      @Gina @VincentTunru Ljubljana is a charming university town with incredible views of the Julian Alps just to the north.

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                      • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                        @willi Greece is amazing, were it not that a lot of places feel very bare because all the young and educated people either moved to Athens or abroad. Athens was a vibe but way too big and busy.

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                        #186

                        @Gina @willi Nafplio is much smaller & remains cosmopolitan. And it’s a fairly easy drive to ATH if you need to get on a plane.

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                        • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                          The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain

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                          #187

                          @Gina How many donkeys?

                          ---> goose meme.

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                          • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                            The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain

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                            #188

                            Me, after improving my French for months, now having to learn Spanish. 🇪🇸 #moveabroad #Spain

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                            • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                              Me, after improving my French for months, now having to learn Spanish. 🇪🇸 #moveabroad #Spain

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                              #189

                              @Gina if you’re moving to Girona you should be leaning Catalan.

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                              • itorres@social.xin.catI itorres@social.xin.cat

                                @Gina if you’re moving to Girona you should be leaning Catalan.

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                                #190

                                @itorres stahp 😭😭

                                Nah I would. Fortunately Catalan seems like a bit of a mix between Spanish and French?

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                                • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                  The way that this is a perk. 🫏 #housesearch #Spain

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                                  #191

                                  @Gina this kind of arrangements in rural dwellings is related to Masoveria, a contract that comes from the 10th century.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoveria

                                  People rent the house that usually was used by the Masover.

                                  This happens a lot since the 20th century due to industrialisation of farming and much more now with automatisation.

                                  Also, the Catalan donkey (ruc) is a particular breed.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_donkey

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                                  • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                    Me, after improving my French for months, now having to learn Spanish. 🇪🇸 #moveabroad #Spain

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                                    #192

                                    @Gina what are you using to learn, and how often? I'm a subscriber to DreamingSpanish.com. Consistency is a challenge for me 🫠

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                                    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                      @itorres stahp 😭😭

                                      Nah I would. Fortunately Catalan seems like a bit of a mix between Spanish and French?

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                                      #193

                                      @Gina in the same way Dutch is a mix of German and French I suppose. 😁

                                      I think no one will expect you to speak Catalan but if you’re open to it and respectful when other people speak it they will love you.

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                                      • codebytom@fosstodon.orgC codebytom@fosstodon.org

                                        @Gina what are you using to learn, and how often? I'm a subscriber to DreamingSpanish.com. Consistency is a challenge for me 🫠

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                                        #194

                                        @codebytom I watch my favorite shows in Spanish and then get upset when I don't know what's happening 😀

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                                        • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                                          It doesn't help that I'm a snobby little Goldilocks that is searching for a place that feels "just right" based on:

                                          - sunny and coastal
                                          - green nature
                                          - access to outdoor sports
                                          - a tech community around
                                          - an expat community that is not retirees
                                          - generally educated populace around
                                          - indoor sports such as a bouldering hall, crossfit gym and yoga studio
                                          - able to buy a house with a garden for max €500k.
                                          - within 1.5 hrs of an international airport
                                          - mountains would be cool

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                                          #195

                                          @Gina What about Berlin/Brandenburg? 😅 except mountains it sounds like Brandenburg. 😎 many lakes around. Something like Spreewald?

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