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  3. a friend of mine sent me these photos of an IBM MT/ST tape (magnetic tape / selectric typewriter).

a friend of mine sent me these photos of an IBM MT/ST tape (magnetic tape / selectric typewriter).

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  • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

    @tubetime Maybe the middle is the 8th bit? Rarely used?

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    #27

    @mwichary @tubetime I wonder if it's intended to be fit for mechanical transcription to some form of paper tape, without translation, and so it actually has to represent the tracking sprocket holes.

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    • vathpela@infosec.exchangeV vathpela@infosec.exchange

      @mwichary @tubetime I wonder if it's intended to be fit for mechanical transcription to some form of paper tape, without translation, and so it actually has to represent the tracking sprocket holes.

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      #28

      @vathpela @tubetime That’s exactly what I was thinking of, too!!!

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      • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

        a friend of mine sent me these photos of an IBM MT/ST tape (magnetic tape / selectric typewriter). the third photo particularly fascinated me: it shows the flux transitions with a Magnaviewer! is it possible to decode? 🧵

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        #29

        @tubetime @ShaulaEvans what?!?!

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        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

          @bitsavers no, i should probably do that. 😅

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          #30

          @tubetime @bitsavers

          All the *kewl kids are doin' it 😎

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          • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

            @vathpela @tubetime That’s exactly what I was thinking of, too!!!

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            #31

            @mwichary @vathpela possible but also the documentation refers to a search bit, so presumably you could set a marker bit there.

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            • carpetbomberz@mastodon.onlineC carpetbomberz@mastodon.online

              @tubetime @bitsavers

              All the *kewl kids are doin' it 😎

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              #32

              @carpetbomberz @tubetime

              and thanks to @tubetime someone will have figured it out for them, assuming "doin' it" means reading old magtape selectric cartridges

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              • bitsavers@oldbytes.spaceB bitsavers@oldbytes.space

                @carpetbomberz @tubetime

                and thanks to @tubetime someone will have figured it out for them, assuming "doin' it" means reading old magtape selectric cartridges

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                #33

                @bitsavers @tubetime

                💯 that is what doin' it means in this context 👍️

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                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                  @mwichary @vathpela possible but also the documentation refers to a search bit, so presumably you could set a marker bit there.

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                  #34

                  @tubetime @mwichary making that a dedicated bit instead of a symbol sure seems weird.

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                  • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                    i've found what appears to be a code table! it's not really EBCDIC; other documentation refers to the reader having to translate the code.

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                    #35

                    @tubetime Interesting bit numbers. 1, 2, 2a(?), 5, 10, 20; maybe it was originally for a decimal system?

                    The * on the 2's Ck/Sft suggests it supports both uppercase and lowercase (lining/text?) digits which is interesting since there's no separate 1, so no way to encode "lowercase" 1.

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                    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                      a friend of mine sent me these photos of an IBM MT/ST tape (magnetic tape / selectric typewriter). the third photo particularly fascinated me: it shows the flux transitions with a Magnaviewer! is it possible to decode? 🧵

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                      #36

                      @tubetime So is the MT/ST before or after the "Magcard Composer" which was basically a Selectric that could key in text and store it on what looked like a punch card but was covered with magnetic media. Then you'd put in the expensive mineral-coat paper and play it back to get a nice error-free galley that you could paste up into book form. Low end typesetting in the late 1970's ...

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                      • vathpela@infosec.exchangeV vathpela@infosec.exchange

                        @tubetime @mwichary making that a dedicated bit instead of a symbol sure seems weird.

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                        #37

                        @vathpela @tubetime I don’t know what “search” is exactly and Internet Archive is down, but if it’s something like beginning of a new section, I can see the value of a separate hole – it could potentially allow to find sections faster (random access)?

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                        • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                          a friend of mine sent me these photos of an IBM MT/ST tape (magnetic tape / selectric typewriter). the third photo particularly fascinated me: it shows the flux transitions with a Magnaviewer! is it possible to decode? 🧵

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                          #38

                          @tubetime holy shit this is so cool

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                          • acsawdey@fosstodon.orgA acsawdey@fosstodon.org

                            @tubetime So is the MT/ST before or after the "Magcard Composer" which was basically a Selectric that could key in text and store it on what looked like a punch card but was covered with magnetic media. Then you'd put in the expensive mineral-coat paper and play it back to get a nice error-free galley that you could paste up into book form. Low end typesetting in the late 1970's ...

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                            #39

                            @acsawdey @tubetime I snagged a Magcard Selectric from a govt auction, back in the '80s. The giant magcard unit became a small side table to the desk, while the Selectric became our home typewriter. I loved typing on those beasts.

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                            • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                              a friend of mine sent me these photos of an IBM MT/ST tape (magnetic tape / selectric typewriter). the third photo particularly fascinated me: it shows the flux transitions with a Magnaviewer! is it possible to decode? 🧵

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                              #40

                              @tubetime ​ wie geil ist magnaviewer

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                              • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                a friend of mine sent me these photos of an IBM MT/ST tape (magnetic tape / selectric typewriter). the third photo particularly fascinated me: it shows the flux transitions with a Magnaviewer! is it possible to decode? 🧵

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                                #41

                                @tubetime fun fact: Len Deighton’s historical fiction book “Bomber” was written on an MT/ST.

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                                • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                  i've found what appears to be a code table! it's not really EBCDIC; other documentation refers to the reader having to translate the code.

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                                  #42

                                  @tubetime oh I found a set of code tables on a crazy old book I meant to post, this reply is actually just to remind me to POST IT RUE.

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                                  • ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchangeR ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchange

                                    @tubetime oh I found a set of code tables on a crazy old book I meant to post, this reply is actually just to remind me to POST IT RUE.

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                                    #43

                                    @tubetime oh yea, thanks for the like.

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                                    • tubetime@mastodon.socialT tubetime@mastodon.social

                                      i've found what appears to be a code table! it's not really EBCDIC; other documentation refers to the reader having to translate the code.

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                                      #44

                                      @tubetime

                                      As intended, old codes from book.

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                                      • ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchangeR ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchange

                                        @tubetime oh yea, thanks for the like.

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                                        #45

                                        @RueNahcMohr like

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