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  3. I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.

I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.

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  • masek@infosec.exchangeM masek@infosec.exchange

    @vicgrinberg I‘m handing out corrections of the source code of apps based on their network traffic 😏. I think you’re doing the right thing.

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    #55

    @masek bwahaha... Ok, that's a level above the TeX corrections 🤣

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    • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

      I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

      Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

      It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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      #56

      @vicgrinberg haha done the same. It is unbearable to see ill written LaTeX documents or misuse of macros.

      Unfortunately, I am now no longer at a university and see butchered documents written in Word or Writer.

      And I only have to blame myself for becoming such a pedantic or it was that book on typography I got back in the days as a birthday present.

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      • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

        @masek bwahaha... Ok, that's a level above the TeX corrections 🤣

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        #57

        @vicgrinberg I can’t do TeX corrections, so that sounds more difficult 😁

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        • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

          I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

          Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

          It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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          #58

          @vicgrinberg You have any idea how long it too me to not type 2 spaces after a period in Word?!

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          • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

            I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

            Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

            It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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            #59

            @vicgrinberg looking back, I cannot help noticing that the next stage is to keep the TeX versions of a text in a VCS (e.g. git) and only look at the changes (not looking through the whole text all over again) when co-authors send you an update.

            Then (in my case) one gets annoyed when co-authors needlessly re-format the whole text, rendering looking at the changes much less straightforward. (And the last stage for me was a serious burnout ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

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            • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

              @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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              #60

              @mxk @vicgrinberg Warning: this is also true of welding

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              • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                #61

                @vicgrinberg The textbook by my Echtzeitsysteme prof was apparently typeset in Word or whatever. Oh my did that look crappy ...

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                • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                  @sim @sci_photos I honestly think my generation wasn't that different (at least in my little corner, where our journals all require to submit latex files using their own stylefiles) - it's just that I had an advisor who has typesetting as a hobby and learned a bit too well 😅

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                  #62

                  @vicgrinberg ☺️
                  @sim

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                  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                    @baszoetekouw @knud pssst, nobody admits to this loudly...

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                    #63

                    @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud oh Knuth himself clearly mentions this as a viable strategy, don't worry, it's nothing to be ashamed of. But only do that when the text is FINAL

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                    • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                      @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud oh Knuth himself clearly mentions this as a viable strategy, don't worry, it's nothing to be ashamed of. But only do that when the text is FINAL

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                      #64

                      @oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
                      Do it when the text is "final_reallyfinal_v2.2_done_corr3_edits.tex"

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                      • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                        @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                        #65

                        @mxk It is true and my life is ruined 😭 @vicgrinberg

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                        • jannem@fosstodon.orgJ jannem@fosstodon.org

                          @oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
                          Do it when the text is "final_reallyfinal_v2.2_done_corr3_edits.tex"

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                          #66

                          @jannem @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud

                          I guess using git for source tracking and collaboration is a bit too much still 8-D

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                          • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                            @jannem @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud

                            I guess using git for source tracking and collaboration is a bit too much still 8-D

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                            @oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
                            I did use git for my papers. It's a godsend! Check in every new revision as you write. Edited versions from your coauthors go into a branch with their name before being merged into main.

                            Highly recommend.

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                            • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                              @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                              #68

                              @mxk @vicgrinberg Teach a person languages and they will suffer from seeing bad machine translations for life

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