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  3. I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.

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  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

    I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

    Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

    It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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    #54

    @vicgrinberg I‘m handing out corrections of the source code of apps based on their network traffic 😏. I think you’re doing the right thing.

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    • masek@infosec.exchangeM masek@infosec.exchange

      @vicgrinberg I‘m handing out corrections of the source code of apps based on their network traffic 😏. I think you’re doing the right thing.

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      #55

      @masek bwahaha... Ok, that's a level above the TeX corrections 🤣

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      • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

        I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

        Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

        It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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        #56

        @vicgrinberg haha done the same. It is unbearable to see ill written LaTeX documents or misuse of macros.

        Unfortunately, I am now no longer at a university and see butchered documents written in Word or Writer.

        And I only have to blame myself for becoming such a pedantic or it was that book on typography I got back in the days as a birthday present.

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        • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

          @masek bwahaha... Ok, that's a level above the TeX corrections 🤣

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          #57

          @vicgrinberg I can’t do TeX corrections, so that sounds more difficult 😁

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          • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

            I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

            Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

            It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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            #58

            @vicgrinberg You have any idea how long it too me to not type 2 spaces after a period in Word?!

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            • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

              I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

              Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

              It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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              #59

              @vicgrinberg looking back, I cannot help noticing that the next stage is to keep the TeX versions of a text in a VCS (e.g. git) and only look at the changes (not looking through the whole text all over again) when co-authors send you an update.

              Then (in my case) one gets annoyed when co-authors needlessly re-format the whole text, rendering looking at the changes much less straightforward. (And the last stage for me was a serious burnout ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

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              • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                #60

                @mxk @vicgrinberg Warning: this is also true of welding

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                • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                  I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?

                  Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...

                  It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*

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                  #61

                  @vicgrinberg The textbook by my Echtzeitsysteme prof was apparently typeset in Word or whatever. Oh my did that look crappy ...

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                  • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                    @sim @sci_photos I honestly think my generation wasn't that different (at least in my little corner, where our journals all require to submit latex files using their own stylefiles) - it's just that I had an advisor who has typesetting as a hobby and learned a bit too well 😅

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                    #62

                    @vicgrinberg ☺️
                    @sim

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                    • vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV vicgrinberg@mastodon.social

                      @baszoetekouw @knud pssst, nobody admits to this loudly...

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                      #63

                      @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud oh Knuth himself clearly mentions this as a viable strategy, don't worry, it's nothing to be ashamed of. But only do that when the text is FINAL

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                      • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                        @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud oh Knuth himself clearly mentions this as a viable strategy, don't worry, it's nothing to be ashamed of. But only do that when the text is FINAL

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                        #64

                        @oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
                        Do it when the text is "final_reallyfinal_v2.2_done_corr3_edits.tex"

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                        • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                          @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                          #65

                          @mxk It is true and my life is ruined 😭 @vicgrinberg

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                          • jannem@fosstodon.orgJ jannem@fosstodon.org

                            @oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
                            Do it when the text is "final_reallyfinal_v2.2_done_corr3_edits.tex"

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                            #66

                            @jannem @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud

                            I guess using git for source tracking and collaboration is a bit too much still 8-D

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                            • oblomov@sociale.networkO oblomov@sociale.network

                              @jannem @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud

                              I guess using git for source tracking and collaboration is a bit too much still 8-D

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                              @oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
                              I did use git for my papers. It's a godsend! Check in every new revision as you write. Edited versions from your coauthors go into a branch with their name before being merged into main.

                              Highly recommend.

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                              • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                                @vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life

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                                #68

                                @mxk @vicgrinberg Teach a person languages and they will suffer from seeing bad machine translations for life

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