I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins.
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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg It has to be done. I spent an hour explaining style sheets and, yes, conventions for physical quantities, units and where spaces go. All very formal but clarity matters. And once you get the hang of it it lasts a lifetime.
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@vicgrinberg It has to be done. I spent an hour explaining style sheets and, yes, conventions for physical quantities, units and where spaces go. All very formal but clarity matters. And once you get the hang of it it lasts a lifetime.
@sellathechemist I love when it works but I have collaborators at faculty level who still seem not to care. It hurts
(I know theybare stressed and under tenure pressure, but it's not like I have tons more time...) -
@sellathechemist I love when it works but I have collaborators at faculty level who still seem not to care. It hurts
(I know theybare stressed and under tenure pressure, but it's not like I have tons more time...)@vicgrinberg I then spent 25 minutes explaining to another that copying references from Zotero and pasting them into Word footnotes might not be the most efficient way to build an essay. An amazed and relieved student headed off for another week….
It’s easy to laugh or snort. But we all have to learn, forgetting how clueless we were back then. I still remember my boss rearranging the total car crash of a practice talk and turning it into a smooth and polished story. -
I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg I‘m handing out corrections of the source code of apps based on their network traffic
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@vicgrinberg I‘m handing out corrections of the source code of apps based on their network traffic
. I think you’re doing the right thing.@masek bwahaha... Ok, that's a level above the TeX corrections

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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg haha done the same. It is unbearable to see ill written LaTeX documents or misuse of macros.
Unfortunately, I am now no longer at a university and see butchered documents written in Word or Writer.
And I only have to blame myself for becoming such a pedantic or it was that book on typography I got back in the days as a birthday present.
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@masek bwahaha... Ok, that's a level above the TeX corrections

@vicgrinberg I can’t do TeX corrections, so that sounds more difficult

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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg You have any idea how long it too me to not type 2 spaces after a period in Word?!
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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg looking back, I cannot help noticing that the next stage is to keep the TeX versions of a text in a VCS (e.g. git) and only look at the changes (not looking through the whole text all over again) when co-authors send you an update.
Then (in my case) one gets annoyed when co-authors needlessly re-format the whole text, rendering looking at the changes much less straightforward. (And the last stage for me was a serious burnout ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
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@vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life
@mxk @vicgrinberg Warning: this is also true of welding
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I was always upset that my PhD advisor would read printouts of my paper drafts and correct my LaTeX by hand in the margins. I mean, not even seeing the code...?
Now I'm reading paper drafts by my PhD students and collaborators as PDFs and also correcting their TeX code because I cannot stand wrong font for maths or wrong spaces between numbers and units. I wish I could stop, but I just can't...
It's all my PhD advisor's fault! *shakes fist in the direction of her old institute*
@vicgrinberg The textbook by my Echtzeitsysteme prof was apparently typeset in Word or whatever. Oh my did that look crappy ...
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@sim @sci_photos I honestly think my generation wasn't that different (at least in my little corner, where our journals all require to submit latex files using their own stylefiles) - it's just that I had an advisor who has typesetting as a hobby and learned a bit too well

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@baszoetekouw @knud pssst, nobody admits to this loudly...
@vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud oh Knuth himself clearly mentions this as a viable strategy, don't worry, it's nothing to be ashamed of. But only do that when the text is FINAL
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@vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud oh Knuth himself clearly mentions this as a viable strategy, don't worry, it's nothing to be ashamed of. But only do that when the text is FINAL
@oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
Do it when the text is "final_reallyfinal_v2.2_done_corr3_edits.tex" -
@vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life
@mxk It is true and my life is ruined
@vicgrinberg -
@oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
Do it when the text is "final_reallyfinal_v2.2_done_corr3_edits.tex"@jannem @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
I guess using git for source tracking and collaboration is a bit too much still 8-D
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@jannem @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
I guess using git for source tracking and collaboration is a bit too much still 8-D
@oblomov @vicgrinberg @baszoetekouw @knud
I did use git for my papers. It's a godsend! Check in every new revision as you write. Edited versions from your coauthors go into a branch with their name before being merged into main.Highly recommend.
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@vicgrinberg teach a person typography and they will suffer from seeing bad typography for life
@mxk @vicgrinberg Teach a person languages and they will suffer from seeing bad machine translations for life
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