Dear Fedi friends,

[shemjm@social.vivaldi.net]

@_elena @EUCommission the website in the screenshot looks awful

[passenger@kolektiva.social]

@_elena @EUCommission

I remember when W was announced, the things they emphasised were:

A) "Now Europeans can be the information gatekeepers too!"

B) "Now Europeans can harvest data too!"

It's as if they looked at facebook and twitter and focused on the very worst aspects of them as what they wanted to reproduce, rather than on the basic humans-talking-to-humans aspect.

[hbons@mastodon.social]

@shemjm @_elena @EUCommission indeed, looks vibe coded.

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@passenger indeed! I've seen dozens of presentations they've given and they want to build a European Everything App, WeChat style. Microblogging, identity, payments... with no previous background in this space, just a desire to build alternatives, hosted in Europe, of INCREDIBLY PROBLEMATIC and toxic Big Tech apps. Digital sovereignty goes beyond having servers hosted in Europe.

@EUCommission

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@Razemix well, ATproto is not like the Fediverse, to be truly independent and sovereign you need to host your own PDS, relay, firehose and moderation (amongst other things). It takes money, resources and expertise. I'm surprised they didn't move to Eurosky TBH

[gina@fosstodon.org]

@hbons @shemjm @_elena @EUCommission I was just about to say, why does it look like the intern just discovered html?

[razemix@mamutovo.cz]

@_elena Yeah, I know, creating a whole separate stack would be an overkill. They could definitely leverage Eurosky in this regard. What I'm saying is that at least having their own PDS (to have control over their data) should be an absolute no-brainer.

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@Razemix oh I absolutely agree with you. My jaw is still on the floor...

[bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr]

@_elena @EUCommission On the ATmosphere, I have a Eurosky account. It may be better, but they just launched a new ATproto Web interface which requires age declaration...

[bbbhltz@framapiaf.org]

@_elena don't apologize
@EUCommission should explain their choice

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

@_elena @Razemix but W is just a PDS rn, which is very simple to set up I'm following many kids who are running their own.

[_elena@mastodon.social]

For context, my two articles on #WSocial didn't include some explosive things I found out in my research because:
- I was given some information on background, confidentially
- I found a particular thread to be a bit distracting (aka the MEGA hats sold on a website with far right paraphernalia)

Plus there are so many white lies... a pattern of misrepresentation that makes it really hard for me to trust them.

Do I have to write a THIRD article about W now? 🫠

[dunklecat@mastodon.dunklecat.dev]

@_elena @EUCommission Thank you for your amazing work

[bovaz@misskey.social]

@_elena@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu I really try to be hopeful, but time and time again they show themselves to be absolute ghouls.

[liaizon@social.wake.st]

@Gina @hbons @shemjm @_elena @EUCommission that's clearsky.app which is just a random tool someone made early on that can show some info about peoples Bluesky accounts

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@liaizon yes, Clearsky may not be the best designed website, but it's SO USEFUL!

@Gina @hbons @shemjm @EUCommission

[patpro@social.patpro.net]

@_elena «MEGA hats» or «MAGA hats»?

[_elena@mastodon.social]

@patpro Make Europe Great Again = MEGA

But they also have ironic red MAGA hats that say "Make science great again)

[ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu]

@_elena @patpro God that's bad, what's next? "Europa macht Frei"? Let's not use cutesy varieties of fascist slogans.

[patpro@social.patpro.net]

@_elena LOL :’D