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  • lmgenealogy@mstdn.caL lmgenealogy@mstdn.ca

    @Zelda @davidrevoy That’s the big problem for me - it’s a full time job tracking down who ultimately owns anything of these services. And as soon as I find one that seems to be okay, someone else buys it.

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    #107

    @lmgenealogy

    I think the user @Linux is the person who published this list, and that was their goal, trying to find businesses that were truly not owned by Americans. That has to be a daunting task, and I appreciate that someone went through the trouble.

    https://codeberg.org/Linux-Is-Best/Outside_US_Jurisdiction

    @davidrevoy

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      @hacknorris @wikipedia I agree 🙂 Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!

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      rotherstuebs@foojay.social
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      #108

      @davidrevoy
      WWTPD - What Would Terry Pratchett do?
      @hacknorris @wikipedia

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        @simondev Nice. Thanks for the link. I had the classic DDG with AI turned off (+ublock origin and a AI blocklist), I'll check if this variant is better.

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        avincentinspace@furry.engineer
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        #109

        @davidrevoy @simondev Oh! If you haven't already, you should add uBlacklist. If you have an AI blocklist, uBlock Origin will stop you from being able to click the links, but uBlacklist will stop them from showing up in the search results at all.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          The Degraded Search Engine

          Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

          #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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          echedellelr@soc.masfloss.net
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          #110

          @davidrevoy i take advantage of this post to share a ublacklist and ublock origin list to remove those results :V

          • https://github.com/NotaInutilis/Super-SEO-Spam-Suppressor
          • https://github.com/Stevoisiak/Stevos-AI-Blocklist
          • https://codeberg.org/Mangochicken/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist
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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            The Degraded Search Engine

            Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

            #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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            #111

            @davidrevoy Je viens de tomber sur la version française, et je découvre qu'Alphonse Robichu continue ses campagnes publicitaires 🤩️

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            • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

              @davidrevoy Je viens de tomber sur la version française, et je découvre qu'Alphonse Robichu continue ses campagnes publicitaires 🤩️

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              #112

              @davidrevoy et pour celleux qui n'auraient pas la ref : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE2072jYDGA

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                The Degraded Search Engine

                Bonus speedpaint: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/miniFantasyTheater/071.html#bonus

                #webcomic #krita #miniFantasyTheater

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                #113

                @davidrevoy

                This post made my day! I just love it! 👍

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                • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

                  @davidrevoy Je viens de tomber sur la version française, et je découvre qu'Alphonse Robichu continue ses campagnes publicitaires 🤩️

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                  #114

                  @orange_lux Les joints d'Étanchéité Suprême n'ont aucune chance avec une com' comme ça!

                  Une idée de génie de la trad FR de @Nartance , j'étais mort de rire hier quand il me l'a envoyé.

                  Et il y avait aussi un petit bonus dans la MR: https://framagit.org/peppercarrot/webcomics/-/merge_requests/1351

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                  • darkpixel@infosec.exchangeD darkpixel@infosec.exchange

                    @davidrevoy Ahh, no plm. They indeed do lookalike lol

                    My fault for not looking at alt-text and posting too quick.

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                    orange_lux@eldritch.cafe
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                    #115

                    @darkpixel @davidrevoy it's also a pun that I love : there's Pepper & Carrot, and then there's Cepper... and parrot.

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                    • echedellelr@soc.masfloss.netE echedellelr@soc.masfloss.net

                      @davidrevoy i take advantage of this post to share a ublacklist and ublock origin list to remove those results :V

                      • https://github.com/NotaInutilis/Super-SEO-Spam-Suppressor
                      • https://github.com/Stevoisiak/Stevos-AI-Blocklist
                      • https://codeberg.org/Mangochicken/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist
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                      davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
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                      #116

                      @echedellelr Nice! I already had the HUGE one, good to see new sources, thanks for sharing!

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        @orange_lux Les joints d'Étanchéité Suprême n'ont aucune chance avec une com' comme ça!

                        Une idée de génie de la trad FR de @Nartance , j'étais mort de rire hier quand il me l'a envoyé.

                        Et il y avait aussi un petit bonus dans la MR: https://framagit.org/peppercarrot/webcomics/-/merge_requests/1351

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                        #117

                        @davidrevoy @Nartance Ha ben justement je comptais te demander si la blague venait de toi ou de tes traducteurices

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                        • A avincentinspace@furry.engineer

                          @davidrevoy @simondev Oh! If you haven't already, you should add uBlacklist. If you have an AI blocklist, uBlock Origin will stop you from being able to click the links, but uBlacklist will stop them from showing up in the search results at all.

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                          avincentinspace@furry.engineer
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                          #118

                          @davidrevoy @simondev Also, mind if I ask what AI blocklist/s you're subscribed to? The one I found on the first page of DDG... is in need of updating, let's say

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                          • R rotherstuebs@foojay.social

                            @davidrevoy
                            WWTPD - What Would Terry Pratchett do?
                            @hacknorris @wikipedia

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                            #119

                            @rotherstuebs @hacknorris @wikipedia Exactly, that's a question I often ask myself while writing my scenarios. The GOAT.

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                            • stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.deS stefan@akko.lightnovel-dungeon.de
                              @davidrevoy Patiently waiting for part 2 where it is revealed that There is another book on the absolute top that machine

                              With a plausible answer but with Parrot on the book. (Basically Googles AI-Summary that gets shoved down your throat with EVERY search. )

                              She tries the spell suggested and it explodes in her face.

                              Also not to forget that half of the real results will be slop-seo-ridden articles

                              (Yes I very much hate search engines by now)

                              Also gotta love the fact the machine is literally running on goo Now thats some impressive Water-Cooling.
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                              #120

                              @stefan Haha, thank you for the ideas and yep: epic water cooling 😎

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                              • yacc143@mastodon.socialY yacc143@mastodon.social

                                @davidrevoy
                                Well they tuned it that it was unusable long before they started experimenting with AI on Google.com

                                Let's be honest, bad search results came from honest enshitifing impulses that drove the business into the direction completely by itself.

                                Why offer the best results for free if the content providers can be forced to pay for the best slots via AdWords?

                                It's organic.

                                Google doesn't need ads to ruin its search.

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                                #121

                                @yacc143 I agree! I remember exactly during a coding sprint with the Krita team back in 2018 having this discussion around the table and each one sharing what they used because it started to be impossible to just find quickly issues, debug info, things in various documentation, etc...

                                But the AI era really made everything go faster downhill. I'm convinced by that.

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                                • orange_lux@eldritch.cafeO orange_lux@eldritch.cafe

                                  @davidrevoy @Nartance Ha ben justement je comptais te demander si la blague venait de toi ou de tes traducteurices

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                                  #122

                                  @orange_lux @davidrevoy xD oui certaines entrées en anglais ne correspondaient pas trop à la recherche une fois traduis (onion ring -> rondelle d'oignons; rondelle qui sort avec anneau, peu probable) ; du coup bah on sort la carte Pérusse 😛 x)

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                                  • toonlink@fandom.inkT toonlink@fandom.ink

                                    @davidrevoy Does the machine create the books? o: That's pretty rad! Or maybe they magically poof the books off the shelves. Even if the books themselves are trash.

                                    It's time to reintroduce yourself to Dewey Decimal, my dear!

                                    (Also I'm loving all the search engine recommendations in the comments, hehe.)

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                                    #123

                                    @ToonLink hey! In my first sketch, I designed big arms on the top of the machine (to pick books around) but it felt complex and also it had something a bit agressive or dangerous.

                                    I then decided it was a sort of teleportation thing, yep. That's one advantage of having a setup in a magic university 😅

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      @hacknorris @wikipedia I agree 🙂 Btw, I wonder what parody name (and metaphor) in a fantasy setting I could give to Wikipedia... I'm open to ideas!

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                                      #124

                                      @davidrevoy @hacknorris @wikipedia Magipedia, same word feeling with minimal change

                                      Or something with grimoire, Grimopedia? Wikimoire?

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        @yacc143 I agree! I remember exactly during a coding sprint with the Krita team back in 2018 having this discussion around the table and each one sharing what they used because it started to be impossible to just find quickly issues, debug info, things in various documentation, etc...

                                        But the AI era really made everything go faster downhill. I'm convinced by that.

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                                        #125

                                        @davidrevoy Sure, the irony is, that today I have to use a mix of a high quality deep research (yes LLM based) assistant (fine tuned, it starts with: all claims must come with double checked references, to guard against hallucinations, ...), Qwant, and for some stuff when the size of the index matters still old Google (manually, by agent to pick out the truffles in the pigsty, or custom scripted filters to find what I look for.)

                                        Yes, it's an adverse environment.

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                                        • sunbeam_rider@shitposter.worldS sunbeam_rider@shitposter.world
                                          @jordan @davidrevoy word of mouth will always be the best publicity. I also like feed agreggators like bubbles.town and powrss.com . But those are more for discovery than search/research.
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                                          #126
                                          @sunbeam_rider @davidrevoy @jordan FYI Bubbles is coded by AI: https://bubbles.town/faq#:~:text=claude
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