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  3. Spain is in Ceuta because it was part of Al-Andalus.

Spain is in Ceuta because it was part of Al-Andalus.

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  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

    recently came across academic research on the last pogrom and expulsiones of Jews in Spain. it happened in 1898 in Galicia.

    this is HIGHLY significant for a few reasons:

    1. 1898 is the year of the Spanish American War

    2. it is known the gringolarchy were doing everything in their power to destabilize #Spain and invade #Cuba and #PuertoRico

    3. #ManifestDestiny is tied to the hip of Sarmiento’s theory of #blanquemiento, which is #eugenics by #immigration

    but more importantly 🧵…

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    #48

    @blogdiva Galician here - lots of ugly things happened here, but pogroms in 1898? Not that I know of.

    (Aren't you by chance mixing Galicia, Poland with Galicia, Spain?)

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    • timo21@mastodon.sdf.orgT timo21@mastodon.sdf.org

      @AccordionBruce @blogdiva Housing and loans depend upon FICO scores. People won't go on strike or protest if it ruins their ability to obtain a place to live or own a car. FICO scores are the tool of financial oppression and control. However, if the housing prices and student loan totals get so out of hand that the the FICO system is destroyed and people can't rent or buy anything, then the proverbial shite will hit the fan, because then there is nothing to lose.

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      #49

      @AccordionBruce @timo21 @blogdiva

      when we're losing our entire planet, there really is nothing to lose. We've already lost. Anything we fight for now saves little tiny scraps for the future.

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      • rcosta@archaeo.socialR rcosta@archaeo.social

        @blogdiva Well things are a little bit more complicated than that. The conquest of Ceuta was made by the Portuguese crown in 1415 and the place switch to Spanish hands in the 17th century. It´s considered the first non defensive conquest of the Portuguese. In a council to debate the enterprise many notable people presented pros and cons about it. Some religious even point the idea as against christian values....

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        #50

        @blogdiva however the control of Ceuta allowed to reduce the actions of muslin pirates that robbed and enslaved coastal christian populations. Also the life of Medieval Sefardi Jews was totally different from the 19th century Eastern Europe cliché that present Ashkenazi cling to. Medieval Sephardi and latter 'Cristãos Novos' weren't slaves, they lend money to buy slaves or trade slaves themselves. Jews had influence in society, like the 'Chief Rabbi' represented in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Vincent_Panels

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        • paeiro@mastodon.galP paeiro@mastodon.gal

          @blogdiva As far as I know there were no Jews in Spain after 1492. I have no clue about prosecutions of Jewish in Galicia in 1898. In that time, there were a massive immigration to south america in the same way as the Irish did (Fidel Castro's grandfather was gallegans). Related to Jewish prosecution in Galicia, refer me your sources, please. Therefore I can learn more about my own History.

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          #51

          @paeiro
          Me imagino que sus fuentes las habrá sacado del mismo sitio de donde sacó las fuentes en las que afirma que los “grupos étnicos ibéricos” de gallegos, vascos y catalanes, fueron expulsados de España, con la complicidad de Marruecos, después de expulsar a los sefardíes y a los “moros españoles”.

          @blogdiva

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          • josemachete79@mastodon.socialJ josemachete79@mastodon.social

            @blogdiva vale, me dejé llevar por malos sentimientos, mis disculpas. Mas en lo que dices hay mucho de erróneo. Suficiente nos odian ya los gringos como para echar más gasolina al fuego.

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            #52

            @josemachete79
            No tienes que disculparte por nada.
            Cuando alguien que esgrime títulos de doctora, no para de soltar estereotipos vacíos de contenido, es lógico reaccionar con cierta vehemencia.

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            • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

              @AccordionBruce @timo21 @blogdiva

              when we're losing our entire planet, there really is nothing to lose. We've already lost. Anything we fight for now saves little tiny scraps for the future.

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              #53

              @FranceskaMann @AccordionBruce @blogdiva until the MAGA are convinced of the peril, progress will be slow. IMO

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              • mbpaz@mas.toM mbpaz@mas.to

                @blogdiva Galician here - lots of ugly things happened here, but pogroms in 1898? Not that I know of.

                (Aren't you by chance mixing Galicia, Poland with Galicia, Spain?)

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                #54

                @mbpaz nope. i was as surprised as you.

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                • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                  RE: https://masto.nyc/@rejinl/117026794913427870

                  Spain is in Ceuta because it was part of Al-Andalus. after 1492 it became NOT a migration point but an EXPULSION point.

                  #Morocco has been complicit with #Spain since the days of the Hapsburgs. they helped La Corona in #deportations of spanish moros, sefaradís and even iberian ethnic groups like basque, gallegos, catalanes.

                  #Marruecos is to #España what El Salvador is today to #Trump and #MAGA #Project2025.

                  Spain’s first sugar plantations were worked by moro & sefaradí slaves in Morocco.

                  🧵…

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                  #55

                  @blogdiva @rejinl This is great stuff! We can also talk about Morocco’s key role in the Spanish Civil War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_1936_military_uprising_in_Melilla

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                  • paeiro@mastodon.galP paeiro@mastodon.gal

                    @blogdiva As far as I know there were no Jews in Spain after 1492. I have no clue about prosecutions of Jewish in Galicia in 1898. In that time, there were a massive immigration to south america in the same way as the Irish did (Fidel Castro's grandfather was gallegans). Related to Jewish prosecution in Galicia, refer me your sources, please. Therefore I can learn more about my own History.

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                    #56

                    ❝ As far as I know there were no Jews in Spain after 1492 ❞

                    one of the biggest lies in the book.

                    why then, y’all needed all those limpia de sangre laws?

                    if you could not prove limpia, you couldn’t marry.

                    if you could not prove limpia, you couldn’t own property.

                    if you could not prove limpia, you couldn’t baptize your kids.

                    if you could not prove limpia, you couldn’t pass on generational wealth.

                    that’s why cryptojudaism and cryptoislamism are legitimate fields of study.

                    @paeiro

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                    • timo21@mastodon.sdf.orgT timo21@mastodon.sdf.org

                      @FranceskaMann @AccordionBruce @blogdiva until the MAGA are convinced of the peril, progress will be slow. IMO

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                      #57

                      @blogdiva @AccordionBruce @timo21

                      They are in a cult. Reality doesn't convince them.

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                      • franceskamann@freeradical.zoneF franceskamann@freeradical.zone

                        @blogdiva @AccordionBruce @timo21

                        They are in a cult. Reality doesn't convince them.

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                        #58

                        @FranceskaMann @blogdiva @AccordionBruce yes. Perhaps with their homes burning down and/or flooding out, there is a chance for change.

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                        • timo21@mastodon.sdf.orgT timo21@mastodon.sdf.org

                          @FranceskaMann @blogdiva @AccordionBruce yes. Perhaps with their homes burning down and/or flooding out, there is a chance for change.

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                          #59

                          @timo21 @blogdiva @AccordionBruce

                          People who are glad when their kids die from preventable disease are not going to change over a weather event.

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                          • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://masto.nyc/@rejinl/117026794913427870

                            Spain is in Ceuta because it was part of Al-Andalus. after 1492 it became NOT a migration point but an EXPULSION point.

                            #Morocco has been complicit with #Spain since the days of the Hapsburgs. they helped La Corona in #deportations of spanish moros, sefaradís and even iberian ethnic groups like basque, gallegos, catalanes.

                            #Marruecos is to #España what El Salvador is today to #Trump and #MAGA #Project2025.

                            Spain’s first sugar plantations were worked by moro & sefaradí slaves in Morocco.

                            🧵…

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                            #60

                            @blogdiva
                            This is an enlightening thread.

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                            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                              never in a million years did i dream that my PhD studies in Iberoamerican colonialism and Latin American arts and culture would prepare me for this moment. yet, i did go into Latin American Studies because i wanted to study how exactly did 13 backwater English colonies became an empire.

                              and 1898 is the key.

                              you cannot understand USA without understanding it’s relationship NOT to the UK but #SPAIN

                              #MAGA is a subset of the gringolarchy that has always been OBSESSED with 1492 Castilla y León…

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                              #61

                              @blogdiva Sadly, the American 13 colonies set out to be an empire even before they united against the British. Anyone not white was the target. They began with Native Americans, tried against Canada during the American Revolution but lost, went after Spain because Spanish Florida was so nearby. What became California and Texas were also Spanish, compounded by gold and beef ranching.

                              Very sad for a nation that talks so about how wonderful and free it is!

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                              • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                                if we look at Spain’s waves of expulsiones (aka deportations) and their use of eminent domain to take over the lands and properties of the deported, it’s clear they had expanded the definition of LIMPIA DE SANGRE and “one-drop rule” not for pedestrian racist reasons but because it was a quick way to make money.

                                so even though LA LIMPIA didn't have in #Spain the same white supremacist connotations that #blanqueamiento had in #Argentina and #OneDropRule in the United States 🧵…

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                                #62

                                @blogdiva That's why England's Henry VIII abolished monasteries and abbeys in 1536: he needed the money.

                                England's Edward I expelled Jews in 1290 for the same reason.

                                Neither king was known for his financial management acumen. I think both were also well known for their love of war.

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                                • paeiro@mastodon.galP paeiro@mastodon.gal

                                  @blogdiva hummm, not exactly. In the Middle Age, península were divided in diferent kingdoms with many diferent languages and cultures in the territory. Expulsions a represions againts local aristocracy were a way to standarized the population in order made easier to rule in unified crown of Castillia and Aragon by the end of XV century. This made the basis of the spanish national cristianism during the Franco dictatorship.

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                                  #63

                                  @paeiro @blogdiva Hello. In the first toot, Liza refers to her PhD studies in this area. Unless you are a professor in this area, that means don’t question, go and find the sources yourself if you feel doubtful about what she’s written. Thank you.

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