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  • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

    “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

    That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

    Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

    https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

    #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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    #16

    @remixtures Would we even need the captcha stuff if Google just started leading the charge respecting robots.txt?

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    • alsvha@sunny.gardenA alsvha@sunny.garden

      @remixtures Yeah, that's a good way to make sure I don't signup or use a service at all.

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      #17

      @alsvha @remixtures

      This, exactly. How anyone is still using products from them is beyond me.

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      • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

        “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

        That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

        Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

        https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

        #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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        #18

        @remixtures

        Giggle wants to give online privacy a hand job.

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        • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

          “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

          That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

          Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

          https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

          #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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          #19

          @remixtures

          I will not comply.

          The internet really could have been a global space for communication and learning.

          The surveillance capitalism Google pioneered poisoned that hopeful vision for the internet, AI scrapers have decimated trust... and so Google's response is... more surveillance.!?

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          • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

            “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

            That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

            Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

            https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

            #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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            #20
            @remixtures

            Google is not your friend.
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            • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

              “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

              That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

              Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

              https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

              #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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              #21

              @remixtures will it recognize my hand geometry if I only wave my middle finger?

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              • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                #22

                @remixtures

                👤 Hey Optimus
                🤖 Yes Master?
                👤 Wave your hand in front of the cam
                🤖 Yes Master
                🤖 Done

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                • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                  “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                  That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                  Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                  https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                  #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                  #23

                  @remixtures they can go fuck themselves at the bottom of the sea.

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                  • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                    “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                    That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                    Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                    https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                    #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                    #24
                    @remixtures Guess there will be a lot more websites I won't be using soon. 😕
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                    • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                      “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                      That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                      Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                      https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                      #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                      #25
                      @remixtures Backhand that damn thing.
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                      • stoori@polyglot.cityS stoori@polyglot.city

                        @remixtures so, do we need to have an inflated latex glove ready now to pass this without showing our actual hand

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                        #26

                        @Stoori @remixtures

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                        • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                          “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                          That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                          Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                          https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                          #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                          shadsterling@mastodon.social
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                          #27

                          @remixtures wow. I recently ran into the “you can’t use this site unless you take a picture of this QR code” captcha for the first time, and that was bad enough to just close the site.

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                          • la_rosa@todon.euL la_rosa@todon.eu

                            @remixtures

                            I will not comply.

                            The internet really could have been a global space for communication and learning.

                            The surveillance capitalism Google pioneered poisoned that hopeful vision for the internet, AI scrapers have decimated trust... and so Google's response is... more surveillance.!?

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                            #28

                            @la_rosa @remixtures

                            https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/03/29/saudi-crown-prince-socially-acceptable-war-criminal-enjoys-us-tour-hosted-americas

                            Remember who Google has as major investors.
                            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-06/google-thiel-stand-out-in-saudi-prince-s-silicon-valley-tour

                            https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-crown-prince-visits-apple-google-2018-4

                            https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-google-hand-dissident-data-to-saudi-arabia-activists-say-2023-7

                            Murderous petrostate despots desperate for an international ubiquitous surveillance system to avoid another Arab Spring.

                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/11/26/war-crimes-allegations-saudi-crown-prince-argentina/

                            https://theintercept.com/2018/04/24/mohammed-bin-salman-mbs-saudi-arabia-yemen-war-crimes/

                            https://www.voanews.com/a/press-freedom_saudi-crown-prince-accused-crimes-against-humanity/6202758.html

                            https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/googles-saudi-ties

                            https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-parent-alphabet-and-aramco-in-talks-to-build-tech-hub-in-saudi-arabia-1517495498

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                            • remixtures@tldr.nettime.orgR remixtures@tldr.nettime.org

                              “Google wants a look at your hands before it lets you through. The company’s newest reCAPTCHA check, rolling out now as a test, asks you to switch on your camera and wave at it so an algorithm can decide whether you’re a human or a bot.

                              That wave is less casual than it looks. The system records a short video of your hand and pulls 21 hand-landmark coordinates from it, mapping your finger joints, your palm geometry, and the way you move in real time.

                              Google describes the purpose as liveness detection, a way for websites to fend off automated account creation, credential-stuffing, and other fraud. But this is still a biometric scan, collected so you can prove you’re a person and still involves turning on your cameras for Google.”

                              https://reclaimthenet.org/googles-new-recaptcha-wants-your-camera-access-and-21-points-of-your-hand

                              #Google #ReCAPTCHA #Biometrics #Privacy

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                              #29

                              @remixtures in addition to the obvious risk that Google will hold on to the biometric data they will collect through this, a few seconds of video should be sufficient to thoroughly profile imperfections in your camera's lens(es), which can be used to identify photos or video taken with the same camera.

                              This BBC article quotes Jessica Fridrich, who I believe pioneered use of the technique and its applications in digital forensics:

                              The hidden fingerprint inside your photos

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                              • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                                @remixtures wow. I recently ran into the “you can’t use this site unless you take a picture of this QR code” captcha for the first time, and that was bad enough to just close the site.

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                                #30

                                @ShadSterling @remixtures it also presumed you have a way of taking a photo of something on your screen...

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