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Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

    Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

    There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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    #19

    @cwebber holy fuck no. this is literally just pparents salty that their kids aren't buying into the shit parents are pushing, and even saltier that kids are, y'know, demanding rights

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    • neatchee@urusai.socialN neatchee@urusai.social

      @FelisCatusDomesticus @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber I think you are underestimating (drastically) the role of child development psychology and how the brain develops in determining behavior at various ages.

      How the hell is a kid supposed to make decisions we expect from adults, when different discrete functional sections of their brains are not finished developing, and developing at different rates?

      Children are not "fire and forget". You can't let them loose on the world and then act surprised when they do stupid, potentially permanently damaging things out of both ignorance and irrationality

      feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @neatchee @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

      this is where parental responsibility comes into the picture.

      except in cases of gross incompetence, parents are still in charge of their kids, at least until age 18.

      let's not forget all common sense here.

      when the parents are as incompetent with tech as the kids, or even more so, then this is a different discussion.

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      • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #21

        @gorlak @cwebber @demofox

        exactly.. parents are in charge of their kids well being until the child reaches age 18.

        let's not leave all common sense behind.

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

          Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

          There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

          hashraydamon@me.dmH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @cwebber 20 hours (and on a weekend) is not enough time to rally the whole internet, give them a few extra hours)

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

            Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

            There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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            #23

            @cwebber
            I'm sure none of the employees of these companies are child sex predators with access to addresses of their preferred children. No... There's no way this could be used to hurt the children. /s

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              @FelisCatusDomesticus They're too disempowered to feel like they can do something about it, which is a different thing

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              #24

              @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus The kids grew up in a panopticon. I am sorry, but it is true.

              The ONLY way we get them to push back is if we can show them that not only is there an alternative, but it is one that a person can thrive in.

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                @FelisCatusDomesticus That's just not true

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                #25

                @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus true, high schoolers are walking out coast to coast so often I see it in the headlines at least every couple of weeks

                What's changed is that we all know our "representitives" don't care and won't listen

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                  Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                  There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

                  fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #26

                  @cwebber times like these make me glad that I don't ever throw away working computer hardware. My 15 year old paranoia is paying off for reasons I couldn't have anticipated. The ram in that broken laptop's probably worth something these days

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                  • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                    @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

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                    #27

                    @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber you can't exactly do that individually on a dime like that

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                    • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                      @cwebber information is widely available in society.. kids simply don't care. they are more interested in Bad Bunny's superbowl performance than they are about higher issues. This is nothing new. Young people's trivial minds. It's a form of self-disempowerment. A phase everyone must pass through on the way to mature adulthood. That having been said, this proposed law is ludicrous.

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                      #28

                      @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber I didn't have a "trivial mind" at that age

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                        #29

                        @gorlak @cwebber @demofox what is considered "porn" here? And who decides? Moms for liberty? What's the appeal process like for wrongful classification?

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                        • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                          @cwebber The big thing is the 3rd parties with whom the data is shared and who are likely sponsoring these bills.

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                          #30

                          @CStamp @cwebber

                          The claim by the Colorado state legislators concerned is that this is designed to avoid sharing anything with 3rd parties.

                          They could simply oppose age verification software as the massive privacy violation that it is instead.

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                          • freya@chaosfem.twF freya@chaosfem.tw

                            @cwebber holy fuck no. this is literally just pparents salty that their kids aren't buying into the shit parents are pushing, and even saltier that kids are, y'know, demanding rights

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                            #31

                            @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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                            • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                              @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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                              #32

                              @fluffykittycat @cwebber better to do that than to let their kids have rights

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                              • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                                @CStamp @cwebber

                                The claim by the Colorado state legislators concerned is that this is designed to avoid sharing anything with 3rd parties.

                                They could simply oppose age verification software as the massive privacy violation that it is instead.

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                                #33

                                @michael_w_busch @cwebber "SB26-051, introduced last month, would require operating systems to register the owner’s age, which third-party apps can then leverage to determine if the user is an adult. The bill calls for the device owner to register their birthdate or age, but for the purposes of creating an “age bracket,” which can then be shared to an app developer through an API to learn their age range, according to BiometricUpdate.com."

                                It does say leverage and sharing with app developers.

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                                • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                                  @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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                                  #34

                                  @fluffykittycat @freya @cwebber Because otherwise their kid might end up becoming one of those got dang "home of sexuals" and that's literally the worst thing to ever possibly happen to anyone ever

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                                  • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

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                                    #35

                                    @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber This is true of adults as well as kids, though. The vast majority of people of all age groups are on corporate social media.

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                                    • aires@tiggi.esA aires@tiggi.es

                                      @fluffykittycat @freya @cwebber Because otherwise their kid might end up becoming one of those got dang "home of sexuals" and that's literally the worst thing to ever possibly happen to anyone ever

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                                      #36

                                      @aires @fluffykittycat @cwebber it's not just that, it's that their kid might do better than them. might change the world and make the world they (the parent) greww up in not exist anymore. and they hate that idea

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                                      • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                        @michael_w_busch @cwebber "SB26-051, introduced last month, would require operating systems to register the owner’s age, which third-party apps can then leverage to determine if the user is an adult. The bill calls for the device owner to register their birthdate or age, but for the purposes of creating an “age bracket,” which can then be shared to an app developer through an API to learn their age range, according to BiometricUpdate.com."

                                        It does say leverage and sharing with app developers.

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                                        #37

                                        @CStamp @cwebber

                                        Here is the proposed bill: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 .

                                        Again; their claim is to allow sharing only an age flag rather than everyone's full ID getting leaked.

                                        Which does nothing to resolve the more fundamental problem.

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                                        • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @neatchee @cwebber

                                          a fair amount of horse management too, being done mainly by big corps, with government doing a bit as well..

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                                          #38

                                          @FelisCatusDomesticus @neatchee @cwebber Got a source link?

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