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Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    @FelisCatusDomesticus They're too disempowered to feel like they can do something about it, which is a different thing

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    #24

    @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus The kids grew up in a panopticon. I am sorry, but it is true.

    The ONLY way we get them to push back is if we can show them that not only is there an alternative, but it is one that a person can thrive in.

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      @FelisCatusDomesticus That's just not true

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      #25

      @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus true, high schoolers are walking out coast to coast so often I see it in the headlines at least every couple of weeks

      What's changed is that we all know our "representitives" don't care and won't listen

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

        Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

        There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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        #26

        @cwebber times like these make me glad that I don't ever throw away working computer hardware. My 15 year old paranoia is paying off for reasons I couldn't have anticipated. The ram in that broken laptop's probably worth something these days

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        • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

          @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

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          #27

          @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber you can't exactly do that individually on a dime like that

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          • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

            @cwebber information is widely available in society.. kids simply don't care. they are more interested in Bad Bunny's superbowl performance than they are about higher issues. This is nothing new. Young people's trivial minds. It's a form of self-disempowerment. A phase everyone must pass through on the way to mature adulthood. That having been said, this proposed law is ludicrous.

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            #28

            @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber I didn't have a "trivial mind" at that age

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              #29

              @gorlak @cwebber @demofox what is considered "porn" here? And who decides? Moms for liberty? What's the appeal process like for wrongful classification?

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              • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                @cwebber The big thing is the 3rd parties with whom the data is shared and who are likely sponsoring these bills.

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                #30

                @CStamp @cwebber

                The claim by the Colorado state legislators concerned is that this is designed to avoid sharing anything with 3rd parties.

                They could simply oppose age verification software as the massive privacy violation that it is instead.

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                • freya@chaosfem.twF freya@chaosfem.tw

                  @cwebber holy fuck no. this is literally just pparents salty that their kids aren't buying into the shit parents are pushing, and even saltier that kids are, y'know, demanding rights

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                  #31

                  @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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                  • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                    @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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                    #32

                    @fluffykittycat @cwebber better to do that than to let their kids have rights

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                    • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                      @CStamp @cwebber

                      The claim by the Colorado state legislators concerned is that this is designed to avoid sharing anything with 3rd parties.

                      They could simply oppose age verification software as the massive privacy violation that it is instead.

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                      #33

                      @michael_w_busch @cwebber "SB26-051, introduced last month, would require operating systems to register the owner’s age, which third-party apps can then leverage to determine if the user is an adult. The bill calls for the device owner to register their birthdate or age, but for the purposes of creating an “age bracket,” which can then be shared to an app developer through an API to learn their age range, according to BiometricUpdate.com."

                      It does say leverage and sharing with app developers.

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                      • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                        @freya @cwebber it's plainly oppression and I'm saddened that I jeep.having to explain this to people. They won't accept the truth even when you spell it out. Why is this? What's wrong with people that they'll toe the line for a conspiracy of billionaire Nazi pedophiles?

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                        #34

                        @fluffykittycat @freya @cwebber Because otherwise their kid might end up becoming one of those got dang "home of sexuals" and that's literally the worst thing to ever possibly happen to anyone ever

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                        • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                          @cwebber I dont observe anyone dropping corporate social media en masse or cutting ties with the megacorps that actively disempower them and have for decades

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                          #35

                          @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber This is true of adults as well as kids, though. The vast majority of people of all age groups are on corporate social media.

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                          • aires@tiggi.esA aires@tiggi.es

                            @fluffykittycat @freya @cwebber Because otherwise their kid might end up becoming one of those got dang "home of sexuals" and that's literally the worst thing to ever possibly happen to anyone ever

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                            #36

                            @aires @fluffykittycat @cwebber it's not just that, it's that their kid might do better than them. might change the world and make the world they (the parent) greww up in not exist anymore. and they hate that idea

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                            • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                              @michael_w_busch @cwebber "SB26-051, introduced last month, would require operating systems to register the owner’s age, which third-party apps can then leverage to determine if the user is an adult. The bill calls for the device owner to register their birthdate or age, but for the purposes of creating an “age bracket,” which can then be shared to an app developer through an API to learn their age range, according to BiometricUpdate.com."

                              It does say leverage and sharing with app developers.

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                              #37

                              @CStamp @cwebber

                              Here is the proposed bill: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 .

                              Again; their claim is to allow sharing only an age flag rather than everyone's full ID getting leaked.

                              Which does nothing to resolve the more fundamental problem.

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                              • feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.netF feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net

                                @neatchee @cwebber

                                a fair amount of horse management too, being done mainly by big corps, with government doing a bit as well..

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                                #38

                                @FelisCatusDomesticus @neatchee @cwebber Got a source link?

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                                • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                                  @CStamp @cwebber

                                  Here is the proposed bill: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 .

                                  Again; their claim is to allow sharing only an age flag rather than everyone's full ID getting leaked.

                                  Which does nothing to resolve the more fundamental problem.

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                                  #39

                                  @michael_w_busch @cwebber Even if it only restricts by age being shared and doesn't exploit that, that is STILL a big boon for marketers and still invades privacy of all.

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                                    Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                                    There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                                    #40

                                    @cwebber seems to me that this is evil, but a lesser evil than having to prove my age (actually my identity) to every site on the internet (which will then be pawned)

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                                      Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                                      There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                                      #41

                                      @cwebber

                                      "Look Susie we have red star os at home"

                                      Red Star os at home:

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                                      • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                                        @gorlak @cwebber @demofox what is considered "porn" here? And who decides? Moms for liberty? What's the appeal process like for wrongful classification?

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                                        #42

                                        @fluffykittycat @gorlak @cwebber indeed, and what about content regarding Wicca, or Islam? Where's the line and who decides it?

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                                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                          Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                                          Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                                          There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                                          #43

                                          @cwebber Thanks for promoting this. This is in committee next Tuesday, 24 February, and members of the public in CO can sign up to attest (it's SB26-051). It's accepted via in-person, Zoom, or written.

                                          https://sites.coleg.gov/public-testimony/sign-up-to-testify/step-1

                                          Other notes from the bill: a) This is sponsored by 2 Democrats; b) web-based usage is not included in this, only apps + app stores; c) enterprise apps are exempted; d) the cost for the state to update *its* apps to support this is $250k. 🥴

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