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  • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

    RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

    Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

    https://www.gimp.org/donating/
    https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
    https://krita.org/fr/donations/

    aruban35mm@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #36

    @Sylvhem and Darktable/Ansel/vkdt

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    • purple@woof.techP purple@woof.tech

      @Sylvhem

      I think this issue with software like GIMP (or well, GIMP specifically as I've tried it before) is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

      GIMP imo is one of the most frustrating pieces of software to exist, where nothing ends up working the way you expect it to, or want it to. I don't mean this to be disrespectful to the people who work on it, it probably works wonderful for them and that's awesome, but not for a large group of people.

      Why these AI clones are getting popular instead is because they basically look and work exactly like software people already know how to use. It's slop, but it's the slop they know.

      kleines_z@queer.groupK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @Purple @Sylvhem
      I can relate to that. I quickly gave up on using GIMP because I couldn't even understand how to downsize an image there. It looks to me like something for professional use that to me isn't worth learning to deal with because I only want something that helps me fix when a photo is too big to upload or send, when the light could be a bit brighter and the contrast a bit higher. I don't feel like putting lots of time and energy into learning how to do that with GIMP.

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      • tito_swineflu@sfba.socialT tito_swineflu@sfba.social

        @mjibrower @Sylvhem affinity seems to only work on mac and windows, right?

        forpeterssake@mastodon.xyzF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @tito_swineflu @mjibrower @Sylvhem
        Correct, along with iOS. And Affinity it was purchased by Canva a couple years ago and went "freemium," which I see as a bad sign for its long-term viability.

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        • tragivictoria@mastodon.com.plT tragivictoria@mastodon.com.pl

          @noracodes @Sylvhem was it reported to GNOME's CoCC?

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          #39

          @tragivictoria @Sylvhem I believe so, but it was years ago.

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          • noracodes@tenforward.socialN noracodes@tenforward.social

            @tragivictoria @Sylvhem I believe so, but it was years ago.

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            #40

            @noracodes @Sylvhem i hope that person got banned then

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            • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

              RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

              Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

              https://www.gimp.org/donating/
              https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
              https://krita.org/fr/donations/

              rey@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @Sylvhem the GNU Image Manipulation Program assholes can go fuck themselves, but yeah, support the other two for sure

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              • tusharhero@mathstodon.xyzT tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz

                @Purple @Sylvhem I learnt GIMP directly. So it feels natural to me. I think "GIMP is unintuitive" complaints are mostly "GIMP is unfamiliar".

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                #42

                @tusharhero @Purple @Sylvhem

                Right?
                I've started with GIMP years ago and I find Photoshop UI unintuitive. 😊

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                • tito_swineflu@sfba.socialT tito_swineflu@sfba.social

                  @Sylvhem i love inkscape and gimp, but can we all agree that gimp needs to change its name and get a real designer to make new tool icons?

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                  #43

                  @tito_swineflu @Sylvhem

                  You’ve just proved the OPs point: if it needs to look nice do some designing for them or give them some money

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                  • davidm_yeg@beige.partyD davidm_yeg@beige.party

                    @tito_swineflu @Sylvhem

                    You’ve just proved the OPs point: if it needs to look nice do some designing for them or give them some money

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                    #44

                    @DavidM_yeg @Sylvhem Sure, but renaming and fixing the design are two things that the gimp world has been firmly against, whether or not they get money or design support. I regularly give money to open source projects.

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                    • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                      RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                      Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                      https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                      https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                      https://krita.org/fr/donations/

                      georgengelmann@graz.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #45

                      @Sylvhem
                      Just pledged €5 per week to GIMP.

                      I hope this helps.

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                      • purple@woof.techP purple@woof.tech

                        @Sylvhem

                        I think this issue with software like GIMP (or well, GIMP specifically as I've tried it before) is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

                        GIMP imo is one of the most frustrating pieces of software to exist, where nothing ends up working the way you expect it to, or want it to. I don't mean this to be disrespectful to the people who work on it, it probably works wonderful for them and that's awesome, but not for a large group of people.

                        Why these AI clones are getting popular instead is because they basically look and work exactly like software people already know how to use. It's slop, but it's the slop they know.

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                        #46

                        @Purple @Sylvhem

                        I wish I could pledge money specifically to make #FOSS projects user-friendly.

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                        • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                          RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                          Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                          https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                          https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                          https://krita.org/fr/donations/

                          wizardofdocs@wandering.shopW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #47

                          @Sylvhem best case scenario: the slop kills Adobe and then dies shortly thereafter, leaving the better options as the only options

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                          • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                            RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                            Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                            https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                            https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                            https://krita.org/fr/donations/

                            karel_kosnar@mastodonczech.czK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #48

                            @Sylvhem GIMP and inkscape are good and I use them, but there is no good enough acrobat alternative. All pdf viewer/creator on Linux miss something, some feature (e.g. form filling, portable annotation)

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                            • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                              RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                              Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                              https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                              https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                              https://krita.org/fr/donations/

                              ftg@mastodon.radioF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #49

                              @Sylvhem
                              And we had a perfectly working Photoshop clone for those who like the workflow and that's Photopea.

                              When the ArtCraft folks slopped up an Excel clone I knew they were just doing it for the lolz. What a waste.

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                              • fandasin@social.linux.pizzaF fandasin@social.linux.pizza

                                @tusharhero @Purple @Sylvhem

                                Right?
                                I've started with GIMP years ago and I find Photoshop UI unintuitive. 😊

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                                #50

                                @FandaSin @tusharhero @Purple @Sylvhem And, ofc, the £250/year Photoshop lightens your wallet by might be thought of as switching to GIMP paying you £250/year to learn it...

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                                • denisbloodnok@mendeddrum.orgD denisbloodnok@mendeddrum.org

                                  @FandaSin @tusharhero @Purple @Sylvhem And, ofc, the £250/year Photoshop lightens your wallet by might be thought of as switching to GIMP paying you £250/year to learn it...

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                                  #51

                                  @denisbloodnok @FandaSin @Purple @Sylvhem I don't think discarding our experience is helping. Many peoole just go with GIMP because it's much accessible (as in to get your hands on) than adobe.

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                                  • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @Sylvhem
                                    > I honestly don’t understand that complaint

                                    I do, having experience with switching users to FLOSS. Their muscle memory is working against them. Like 'the blur dialog has default slider not how it should be'. It pains them the more, the more they have been using the other side professionally.

                                    @Purple

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                                    #52

                                    @ohir @Sylvhem @Purple well design consistency issues are to be expected, gimp has a perfectly serviceable interface - if users expect a photoshop interface they can continue paying adobe or sailing the high seas.

                                    or of course use the vibe coded trash that struggles with moving layers

                                    and i don't think it's an issue with oh developers don't care about users. as i've said it again, gimp has a perfectly usable interface but because nobody has the time or will to relearn how to use a new program we are suddenly hit with oh but it's too hard, oh it's not intuitive, which is a big misconception imo

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                                    • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                                      RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                                      Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                                      https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                                      https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                                      https://krita.org/fr/donations/

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                                      #53

                                      @Sylvhem Going to mention Scribus, because print-layout software is also important 😉

                                      https://www.scribus.net

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                                      • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                                        @Purple I honestly don’t understand that complaint, when the GIMP’s interface pretty much looks like the one from Photoshop CS5.
                                        But I’m neither an expert on design, nor on interfaces so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                                        #54
                                        @Sylvhem @Purple i wonder, did you install the PhotoGimp UI patch for gimp? cus by default Gimp looks nothing like photoshop at all 😛
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