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Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

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  • purple@woof.techP purple@woof.tech

    @Sylvhem

    I think this issue with software like GIMP (or well, GIMP specifically as I've tried it before) is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

    GIMP imo is one of the most frustrating pieces of software to exist, where nothing ends up working the way you expect it to, or want it to. I don't mean this to be disrespectful to the people who work on it, it probably works wonderful for them and that's awesome, but not for a large group of people.

    Why these AI clones are getting popular instead is because they basically look and work exactly like software people already know how to use. It's slop, but it's the slop they know.

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    #27

    @Purple @Sylvhem I learnt GIMP directly. So it feels natural to me. I think "GIMP is unintuitive" complaints are mostly "GIMP is unfamiliar".

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    • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

      RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

      Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

      https://www.gimp.org/donating/
      https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
      https://krita.org/fr/donations/

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      #28

      @Sylvhem I learned how to use GIMP over time but it feels backwards even without any experience with photoshop. It improved a lot when they docked its windows by default. But layers, selections, gui layouts on highres screen, that all can be improved a lot.

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      • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

        RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

        Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

        https://www.gimp.org/donating/
        https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
        https://krita.org/fr/donations/

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        #29

        @Sylvhem As long as all "practical tests" are on how similar alternatives are to photoshop this is quite hard.... ( https://www.golem.de/news/photoshop-geklont-kann-adobe-einpacken-2610-214045-3.html )

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        • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

          RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

          Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

          https://www.gimp.org/donating/
          https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
          https://krita.org/fr/donations/

          codl@chitter.xyzC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #30

          @Sylvhem what's the context here? what's the piece of software mentioned?

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          • codl@chitter.xyzC codl@chitter.xyz

            @Sylvhem what's the context here? what's the piece of software mentioned?

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            #31

            @codl @Sylvhem pretty sure it's this https://bsky.app/profile/jamesomalley.co.uk/post/3mxbl36nkms2q

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            • siph@meemu.orgS siph@meemu.org

              @codl @Sylvhem pretty sure it's this https://bsky.app/profile/jamesomalley.co.uk/post/3mxbl36nkms2q

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              #32

              @Siph @Sylvhem okeyy thank you

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              • purple@woof.techP purple@woof.tech

                @Sylvhem

                I think this issue with software like GIMP (or well, GIMP specifically as I've tried it before) is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

                GIMP imo is one of the most frustrating pieces of software to exist, where nothing ends up working the way you expect it to, or want it to. I don't mean this to be disrespectful to the people who work on it, it probably works wonderful for them and that's awesome, but not for a large group of people.

                Why these AI clones are getting popular instead is because they basically look and work exactly like software people already know how to use. It's slop, but it's the slop they know.

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                #33

                @Purple @Sylvhem they don’t work for those people (yet)

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                • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                  @Purple
                  > GIMP ... is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

                  After using GIMP for 20 years on I'd say that the issue with software like Photoshop (or well, Photoshop specifically as I've tried it before) is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

                  It is not that GIMP or Inkscape is not intuitive, it is – just Photoshop user intuition was trained against the GIMP UX. The same with LO, Inkscape and almost any other FLOSS software.

                  @Sylvhem

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                  #34

                  @ohir @Purple @Sylvhem I felt right at home in Inkscape, but that's probably because its UI is really similar to (old?) CorelDraw.

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                  • noracodes@tenforward.socialN noracodes@tenforward.social

                    @Sylvhem Remember when GIMP devs called a Black GNOME contributor a monkey? I remember. They're also the reason a certain infamous gangstalking forum has a thread on me.

                    Krita rocks though.

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                    #35

                    @noracodes @Sylvhem was it reported to GNOME's CoCC?

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                    • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                      RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                      Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                      https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                      https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                      https://krita.org/fr/donations/

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                      #36

                      @Sylvhem and Darktable/Ansel/vkdt

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                      • purple@woof.techP purple@woof.tech

                        @Sylvhem

                        I think this issue with software like GIMP (or well, GIMP specifically as I've tried it before) is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

                        GIMP imo is one of the most frustrating pieces of software to exist, where nothing ends up working the way you expect it to, or want it to. I don't mean this to be disrespectful to the people who work on it, it probably works wonderful for them and that's awesome, but not for a large group of people.

                        Why these AI clones are getting popular instead is because they basically look and work exactly like software people already know how to use. It's slop, but it's the slop they know.

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                        #37

                        @Purple @Sylvhem
                        I can relate to that. I quickly gave up on using GIMP because I couldn't even understand how to downsize an image there. It looks to me like something for professional use that to me isn't worth learning to deal with because I only want something that helps me fix when a photo is too big to upload or send, when the light could be a bit brighter and the contrast a bit higher. I don't feel like putting lots of time and energy into learning how to do that with GIMP.

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                        • tito_swineflu@sfba.socialT tito_swineflu@sfba.social

                          @mjibrower @Sylvhem affinity seems to only work on mac and windows, right?

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                          #38

                          @tito_swineflu @mjibrower @Sylvhem
                          Correct, along with iOS. And Affinity it was purchased by Canva a couple years ago and went "freemium," which I see as a bad sign for its long-term viability.

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                          • tragivictoria@mastodon.com.plT tragivictoria@mastodon.com.pl

                            @noracodes @Sylvhem was it reported to GNOME's CoCC?

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                            #39

                            @tragivictoria @Sylvhem I believe so, but it was years ago.

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                            • noracodes@tenforward.socialN noracodes@tenforward.social

                              @tragivictoria @Sylvhem I believe so, but it was years ago.

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                              #40

                              @noracodes @Sylvhem i hope that person got banned then

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                              • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                                RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                                Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                                https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                                https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                                https://krita.org/fr/donations/

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                                #41

                                @Sylvhem the GNU Image Manipulation Program assholes can go fuck themselves, but yeah, support the other two for sure

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                                • tusharhero@mathstodon.xyzT tusharhero@mathstodon.xyz

                                  @Purple @Sylvhem I learnt GIMP directly. So it feels natural to me. I think "GIMP is unintuitive" complaints are mostly "GIMP is unfamiliar".

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                                  #42

                                  @tusharhero @Purple @Sylvhem

                                  Right?
                                  I've started with GIMP years ago and I find Photoshop UI unintuitive. 😊

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                                  • tito_swineflu@sfba.socialT tito_swineflu@sfba.social

                                    @Sylvhem i love inkscape and gimp, but can we all agree that gimp needs to change its name and get a real designer to make new tool icons?

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                                    #43

                                    @tito_swineflu @Sylvhem

                                    You’ve just proved the OPs point: if it needs to look nice do some designing for them or give them some money

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                                    • davidm_yeg@beige.partyD davidm_yeg@beige.party

                                      @tito_swineflu @Sylvhem

                                      You’ve just proved the OPs point: if it needs to look nice do some designing for them or give them some money

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                                      #44

                                      @DavidM_yeg @Sylvhem Sure, but renaming and fixing the design are two things that the gimp world has been firmly against, whether or not they get money or design support. I regularly give money to open source projects.

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                                      • sylvhem@eldritch.cafeS sylvhem@eldritch.cafe

                                        RE: https://mograph.social/@dilmandila/117432072219819451

                                        Please help finance GIMP, Inkscape and Krita instead of spending your money on trying to get Claude to make you a Photoshop clone.

                                        https://www.gimp.org/donating/
                                        https://inkscape.org/support-us/donate/
                                        https://krita.org/fr/donations/

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                                        #45

                                        @Sylvhem
                                        Just pledged €5 per week to GIMP.

                                        I hope this helps.

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                                        • purple@woof.techP purple@woof.tech

                                          @Sylvhem

                                          I think this issue with software like GIMP (or well, GIMP specifically as I've tried it before) is that it just doesn't work intuitively.

                                          GIMP imo is one of the most frustrating pieces of software to exist, where nothing ends up working the way you expect it to, or want it to. I don't mean this to be disrespectful to the people who work on it, it probably works wonderful for them and that's awesome, but not for a large group of people.

                                          Why these AI clones are getting popular instead is because they basically look and work exactly like software people already know how to use. It's slop, but it's the slop they know.

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                                          #46

                                          @Purple @Sylvhem

                                          I wish I could pledge money specifically to make #FOSS projects user-friendly.

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