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Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    ICE 1020
    12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

    Distance: 436.9km
    Average speed: 119km/h

    6 stops:
    Düsseldorf Hbf
    Duisburg Hbf
    Essen Hbf
    Münster(Westf)Hbf
    Hamburg-Harburg
    Hamburg Hbf

    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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    #19

    The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

    They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

    And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

    What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

      They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

      And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

      What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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      #20

      One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

      This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

        This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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        #21

        Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

        There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

        It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

          There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

          It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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          #22

          And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

          Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

            Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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            #23

            Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

            X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

            I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

            (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

              X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

              I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

              (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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              #24

              Ah

              If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Ah

                If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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                #25

                And we’ve had about a dozen automated announcements about the delay here on the platform, and the delay goes up 10 minutes every 10 minutes 🤷‍♂️

                Thank goodness I’m doing this on Interrail

                Buy a regular ticket for this and it’s a fortune

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  And we’ve had about a dozen automated announcements about the delay here on the platform, and the delay goes up 10 minutes every 10 minutes 🤷‍♂️

                  Thank goodness I’m doing this on Interrail

                  Buy a regular ticket for this and it’s a fortune

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                  #26

                  And some dude wrote in The Guardian a week ago that night trains were often poor. And now he’s living it himself 🤪 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/11/europe-was-promised-a-new-golden-age-of-the-night-train-why-are-we-still-waiting

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    And some dude wrote in The Guardian a week ago that night trains were often poor. And now he’s living it himself 🤪 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/11/europe-was-promised-a-new-golden-age-of-the-night-train-why-are-we-still-waiting

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                    #27

                    Every

                    single

                    time

                    I

                    go

                    to

                    Sweden

                    the

                    trains

                    go

                    wrong

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Every

                      single

                      time

                      I

                      go

                      to

                      Sweden

                      the

                      trains

                      go

                      wrong

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                      #28

                      Here’s today’s summary video

                      https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/rKvwC3itEDb3DYxTkK3E5F

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Here’s today’s summary video

                        https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/rKvwC3itEDb3DYxTkK3E5F

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                        #29

                        #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 41 of 154
                        EN 346
                        22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01 (arrived +150)
                        SJ, RDC

                        Train type: ADTranz 101, followed by a Siemens Vectron, 8 carriages (inc. couchettes & sleeping cars)
                        ⚡️ (15kV ac, 25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                        🚲: ⛔️
                        🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                        🛜: ⛔️
                        🍽️: ✅ (at least there's breakfast)
                        🧳: 😐 (very narrow doors, corridors, OK once in)
                        🧽: 😐 (ok inside, but grimy outside, worn)

                        🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs vary depending on class of accommodation)

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 41 of 154
                          EN 346
                          22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01 (arrived +150)
                          SJ, RDC

                          Train type: ADTranz 101, followed by a Siemens Vectron, 8 carriages (inc. couchettes & sleeping cars)
                          ⚡️ (15kV ac, 25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                          🚲: ⛔️
                          🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                          🛜: ⛔️
                          🍽️: ✅ (at least there's breakfast)
                          🧳: 😐 (very narrow doors, corridors, OK once in)
                          🧽: 😐 (ok inside, but grimy outside, worn)

                          🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs vary depending on class of accommodation)

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                          #30

                          EN 346
                          22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01

                          Distance: 544.9km
                          Average speed: 91km/h

                          3 stops:
                          Padborg st
                          Koebenhavns Lufthavn st
                          Malmö Central

                          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/54.821/11.148

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            EN 346
                            22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01

                            Distance: 544.9km
                            Average speed: 91km/h

                            3 stops:
                            Padborg st
                            Koebenhavns Lufthavn st
                            Malmö Central

                            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/54.821/11.148

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                            #31

                            Comedy now

                            The window latch is somehow broken so the window won’t close. And the window blind is stuck open

                            It’s 1am

                            I’m pretty good at fixing things. But this? 🤔

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Comedy now

                              The window latch is somehow broken so the window won’t close. And the window blind is stuck open

                              It’s 1am

                              I’m pretty good at fixing things. But this? 🤔

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                              #32

                              Ah

                              Luggage lock hooked onto my mobile phone charger stops the blind springing open.

                              Obviously! 😀

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Ah

                                Luggage lock hooked onto my mobile phone charger stops the blind springing open.

                                Obviously! 😀

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                                #33

                                Hello old friend!

                                I’m not hanging around on the knackered night train to Stockholm but am changing instead in Malmö onto a X2000 to Stockholm

                                Despite my general annoyance at Swedish trains, X2000 is nevertheless super

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  Hello old friend!

                                  I’m not hanging around on the knackered night train to Stockholm but am changing instead in Malmö onto a X2000 to Stockholm

                                  Despite my general annoyance at Swedish trains, X2000 is nevertheless super

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                                  #34

                                  So is there a ferry I can take somewhere on the way back? 🤔

                                  @partim is laughing at me for this meanwhile

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    So is there a ferry I can take somewhere on the way back? 🤔

                                    @partim is laughing at me for this meanwhile

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                                    #35

                                    Annoyingly there is no viable way to re-plan onto a ferry next weekend, and still get to Bourgogne the same day the ferry arrives somewhere.

                                    But I have found ways around every conceivable SJ and wider Swedish rail dysfunction I think. Even if - by some shocker - the night train southbound is on time I can catch it up.

                                    And I have 3 hours 20 mins buffer in Hamburg.

                                    Should be enough...? 🤔

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Annoyingly there is no viable way to re-plan onto a ferry next weekend, and still get to Bourgogne the same day the ferry arrives somewhere.

                                      But I have found ways around every conceivable SJ and wider Swedish rail dysfunction I think. Even if - by some shocker - the night train southbound is on time I can catch it up.

                                      And I have 3 hours 20 mins buffer in Hamburg.

                                      Should be enough...? 🤔

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                                      #36

                                      @jon Go to Malmö by day train and have the uncomfortable EC1195 from Copenhagen as backup?

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                                      • interrailinfosvenska@mastodonsweden.seI interrailinfosvenska@mastodonsweden.se

                                        @jon Go to Malmö by day train and have the uncomfortable EC1195 from Copenhagen as backup?

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                                        #37

                                        @interrailinfosvenska Yes, exactly that. The only headache: I am starting in Oslo, and everything to Kalmar *and* to Göteborg is closed. So I am on a Flixbus to Grums, and start the train trip there.

                                        But yes, I can get to Kbh for the EuroCity if I need it (i.e. I know the EuroNight is a mess before I get to Nässjö)

                                        Edit: Karlstad not Kalmar. I’m tired 😀

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          @interrailinfosvenska Yes, exactly that. The only headache: I am starting in Oslo, and everything to Kalmar *and* to Göteborg is closed. So I am on a Flixbus to Grums, and start the train trip there.

                                          But yes, I can get to Kbh for the EuroCity if I need it (i.e. I know the EuroNight is a mess before I get to Nässjö)

                                          Edit: Karlstad not Kalmar. I’m tired 😀

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                                          #38

                                          @jon
                                          The west coast line is blocked in Varberg June 9 - July 13, that's why Göteborg is a mess.

                                          In that time, they switch from the old single track line to the new double tracked tunnel. This should free up a lot of capacity, I guess that's why there's suddenly so much demand for Oslo-Copenhagen paths next year.
                                          @interrailinfosvenska

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