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Welcome to today's thread - 2025 #CrossBorderRail Finale Day 8 - 16 June - Bruxelles- Köln - Hamburg, onto night train

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 39 of 154
    S 19
    10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20
    DB Regio AG NRW

    Train type: Adtranz, Alstom LHB, ABB, Bombardier 423 EMU, 2x 4 short carriages
    ⚡️ (15kV ac)
    🚲: ✅
    🦽: ✅ (step free, although not all trains on this line are)
    🛜: ❓(forgot to check, but I think only renovated trains have wifi and this wasn’t renovated?)
    🍽️: ⛔️
    🧳: 😐 (not the best design, door vestibules are more cramped than they need be)
    🧽: 🙂

    🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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    #16

    S 19
    10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

    Distance: 18.4km
    Average speed: 53km/h

    7 stops:
    Frechen-Königsdorf
    Köln-Weiden West
    Lövenich
    Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
    Köln-Ehrenfeld
    Köln Hansaring
    Köln Hbf

    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      S 19
      10:59 Horrem - Köln Hbf 11:20

      Distance: 18.4km
      Average speed: 53km/h

      7 stops:
      Frechen-Königsdorf
      Köln-Weiden West
      Lövenich
      Köln-Müngersdorf Technologiepark
      Köln-Ehrenfeld
      Köln Hansaring
      Köln Hbf

      This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#12/50.9360/6.8378

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      #17

      #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
      ICE 1020
      12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
      DB Fernverkehr

      Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
      ⚡️ (15kV ac)
      🚲: ⛔️
      🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
      🛜: ✅
      🍽️: ✅
      🧳: 🙂
      🧽: 🙂

      🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 40 of 154
        ICE 1020
        12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51
        DB Fernverkehr

        Train type: AEG, ABB, Henschel, Krauss, Krupp, Siemens ICE 1, 2 power cars and 9 carriages
        ⚡️ (15kV ac)
        🚲: ⛔️
        🦽: ✅ (needs lift on platform)
        🛜: ✅
        🍽️: ✅
        🧳: 🙂
        🧽: 🙂

        🎫 Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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        #18

        ICE 1020
        12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

        Distance: 436.9km
        Average speed: 119km/h

        6 stops:
        Düsseldorf Hbf
        Duisburg Hbf
        Essen Hbf
        Münster(Westf)Hbf
        Hamburg-Harburg
        Hamburg Hbf

        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          ICE 1020
          12:11 Köln Hbf - Hamburg Hbf 15:51

          Distance: 436.9km
          Average speed: 119km/h

          6 stops:
          Düsseldorf Hbf
          Duisburg Hbf
          Essen Hbf
          Münster(Westf)Hbf
          Hamburg-Harburg
          Hamburg Hbf

          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#7/52.266/8.399

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          #19

          The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

          They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

          And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

          What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            The southbound EuroNight 345 from Stockholm to Berlin is still more than 2 hours away from Hamburg is currently +733, so over 12 hours late

            They are NOT taking it to Berlin, it will be serviced in Hamburg

            And this train ought to be departing north as EN 346 with me on it from Hamburg at 22:03

            What is going to happen I wonder? 🤔

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            #20

            One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

            This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              One of the most dangerous things you can carry in a railway station

              This is S-Bahn so third rail, they might be ok. But one platform over it’s 15kV ⚡️

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              #21

              Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

              There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

              It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Departure of the Hamburg-Stockholm EuroNight announced 90 mins delayed just 25 mins before the departure, after having been informed earlier by SJ that "an unknown delay was possible"

                There's nothing in the SJ app, and DB also knows no more than the minimal info SJ is giving them

                It's lousy, but it's what you'd expect of this operationally shoddy EuroNight train

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                #22

                And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

                Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  And now 10 mins later the delay is reduced by 20 mins.

                  Do they know what they're doing, or are they making this up?

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                  #23

                  Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

                  X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

                  I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

                  (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Current contingency: see when the train departs, and then get off it prematurely tomorrow morning, in Malmö

                    X2000 Malmö-Stockholm takes between 4:20 and 4:35, the night train more than 6 hours (and if delayed anyway will just get delayed more)

                    I just need to work out which X2000 it would be sensible to reserve...

                    (Interrail means I can do this reasonably easily and for 75 SEK)

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                    #24

                    Ah

                    If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Ah

                      If the SJ-RDC mess wasn’t enough, DB has now managed to clog up all the platforms at Hamburg Hbf with delayed ICEs. So if the EuroNight is trying to get in here it can’t.

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                      #25

                      And we’ve had about a dozen automated announcements about the delay here on the platform, and the delay goes up 10 minutes every 10 minutes 🤷‍♂️

                      Thank goodness I’m doing this on Interrail

                      Buy a regular ticket for this and it’s a fortune

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        And we’ve had about a dozen automated announcements about the delay here on the platform, and the delay goes up 10 minutes every 10 minutes 🤷‍♂️

                        Thank goodness I’m doing this on Interrail

                        Buy a regular ticket for this and it’s a fortune

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                        #26

                        And some dude wrote in The Guardian a week ago that night trains were often poor. And now he’s living it himself 🤪 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/11/europe-was-promised-a-new-golden-age-of-the-night-train-why-are-we-still-waiting

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          And some dude wrote in The Guardian a week ago that night trains were often poor. And now he’s living it himself 🤪 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/11/europe-was-promised-a-new-golden-age-of-the-night-train-why-are-we-still-waiting

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                          #27

                          Every

                          single

                          time

                          I

                          go

                          to

                          Sweden

                          the

                          trains

                          go

                          wrong

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Every

                            single

                            time

                            I

                            go

                            to

                            Sweden

                            the

                            trains

                            go

                            wrong

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                            #28

                            Here’s today’s summary video

                            https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/rKvwC3itEDb3DYxTkK3E5F

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Here’s today’s summary video

                              https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/rKvwC3itEDb3DYxTkK3E5F

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                              #29

                              #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 41 of 154
                              EN 346
                              22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01 (arrived +150)
                              SJ, RDC

                              Train type: ADTranz 101, followed by a Siemens Vectron, 8 carriages (inc. couchettes & sleeping cars)
                              ⚡️ (15kV ac, 25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                              🚲: ⛔️
                              🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                              🛜: ⛔️
                              🍽️: ✅ (at least there's breakfast)
                              🧳: 😐 (very narrow doors, corridors, OK once in)
                              🧽: 😐 (ok inside, but grimy outside, worn)

                              🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs vary depending on class of accommodation)

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 41 of 154
                                EN 346
                                22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01 (arrived +150)
                                SJ, RDC

                                Train type: ADTranz 101, followed by a Siemens Vectron, 8 carriages (inc. couchettes & sleeping cars)
                                ⚡️ (15kV ac, 25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                                🚲: ⛔️
                                🦽: ✅ (lift on platform)
                                🛜: ⛔️
                                🍽️: ✅ (at least there's breakfast)
                                🧳: 😐 (very narrow doors, corridors, OK once in)
                                🧽: 😐 (ok inside, but grimy outside, worn)

                                🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs vary depending on class of accommodation)

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                                #30

                                EN 346
                                22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01

                                Distance: 544.9km
                                Average speed: 91km/h

                                3 stops:
                                Padborg st
                                Koebenhavns Lufthavn st
                                Malmö Central

                                This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/54.821/11.148

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  EN 346
                                  22:03 Hamburg Hbf - Malmö C 04:01

                                  Distance: 544.9km
                                  Average speed: 91km/h

                                  3 stops:
                                  Padborg st
                                  Koebenhavns Lufthavn st
                                  Malmö Central

                                  This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/54.821/11.148

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                                  #31

                                  Comedy now

                                  The window latch is somehow broken so the window won’t close. And the window blind is stuck open

                                  It’s 1am

                                  I’m pretty good at fixing things. But this? 🤔

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Comedy now

                                    The window latch is somehow broken so the window won’t close. And the window blind is stuck open

                                    It’s 1am

                                    I’m pretty good at fixing things. But this? 🤔

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                                    #32

                                    Ah

                                    Luggage lock hooked onto my mobile phone charger stops the blind springing open.

                                    Obviously! 😀

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Ah

                                      Luggage lock hooked onto my mobile phone charger stops the blind springing open.

                                      Obviously! 😀

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                                      #33

                                      Hello old friend!

                                      I’m not hanging around on the knackered night train to Stockholm but am changing instead in Malmö onto a X2000 to Stockholm

                                      Despite my general annoyance at Swedish trains, X2000 is nevertheless super

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        Hello old friend!

                                        I’m not hanging around on the knackered night train to Stockholm but am changing instead in Malmö onto a X2000 to Stockholm

                                        Despite my general annoyance at Swedish trains, X2000 is nevertheless super

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                                        #34

                                        So is there a ferry I can take somewhere on the way back? 🤔

                                        @partim is laughing at me for this meanwhile

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          So is there a ferry I can take somewhere on the way back? 🤔

                                          @partim is laughing at me for this meanwhile

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                                          #35

                                          Annoyingly there is no viable way to re-plan onto a ferry next weekend, and still get to Bourgogne the same day the ferry arrives somewhere.

                                          But I have found ways around every conceivable SJ and wider Swedish rail dysfunction I think. Even if - by some shocker - the night train southbound is on time I can catch it up.

                                          And I have 3 hours 20 mins buffer in Hamburg.

                                          Should be enough...? 🤔

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