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  3. Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.”

Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.”

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  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

    Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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    #26

    @eff I didn't have "EFF being deeply corrupt in the stupidest way imaginable" on my bingo card

    I hope that boot tastes good

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    • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net
      @eff Fuck. That. Shit.
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      #27

      @me @eff what he said

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      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

        Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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        #28

        @eff@mastodon.social get fucked.

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        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

          Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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          #29

          @eff how about no.

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          • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

            Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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            #30

            @eff wow. im giving yalls allotment to the internet archive from now on.

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            • fullywoolly@mastodon.socialF fullywoolly@mastodon.social

              @eff I've been donating monthly since 2017. You just lost my support.

              https://supporters.eff.org/donate/recurring for anyone else that needs to cancel.

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              #31

              @fullywoolly @eff I think one really sad part about all this is the EFF still does good things... but they really need to stop this AI support right away!!

              I don't know if people can ever fully trust an organization that supported AI ever again, but I think if they walk back this post and put out an official statement it would go a long way towards rebuilding that road.

              Please EFF ... we need you... just not like this.

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              • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                #32

                @eff really? fucking really?

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                • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                  Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                  #33

                  @eff Unfollowing, removing from annual donation list

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                  • corigan01@todon.nlC corigan01@todon.nl

                    @fullywoolly @eff I think one really sad part about all this is the EFF still does good things... but they really need to stop this AI support right away!!

                    I don't know if people can ever fully trust an organization that supported AI ever again, but I think if they walk back this post and put out an official statement it would go a long way towards rebuilding that road.

                    Please EFF ... we need you... just not like this.

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                    #34

                    @corigan01 first Debian and now @eff

                    I don't know how I can trust them when this is their take. I don't know what redemption would even look like. A strongly worded letter wouldn't do it.

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                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                      Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                      #35

                      @eff delete your whole worthless organization you nazi sympathizer pieces of shit

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                      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                        Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                        #36

                        @eff yeah, that's an unfollow for me. Eat farts and beat street.

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                        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                          Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                          #37

                          @eff "Billionaires stealing creative work is fine" is a stance you can take, I guess.

                          It's a bad stance, but you can take it.

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                          • fullywoolly@mastodon.socialF fullywoolly@mastodon.social

                            @corigan01 first Debian and now @eff

                            I don't know how I can trust them when this is their take. I don't know what redemption would even look like. A strongly worded letter wouldn't do it.

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                            #38

                            @fullywoolly @eff I think that's fair, and I am also very heartbroken about Debian (gotta move my infra over to NetBSD or something now).

                            However, I am also slightly concerned that the other work they are pushing for might be unsupported if enough people leave the EFF. I am not saying that the EFFs actions are okay here, and we should seriously consider other options from now on, but we cannot forget about the other efforts they are doing to help keep our last remaining digital rights in check.

                            I really don't know what to make of all this (just like Debian), we need them, but they broke our trust and I don't know what the future holds now. I am very confused if I should even award them this last sliver of doubt.... I guess I just am still in denial that the EFF of all organizations would fumble this hard.

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                            • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                              Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                              #39

                              @eff no human = no intent = no transformation

                              eff y'all done fucked up

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                              • corigan01@todon.nlC corigan01@todon.nl

                                @fullywoolly @eff I think that's fair, and I am also very heartbroken about Debian (gotta move my infra over to NetBSD or something now).

                                However, I am also slightly concerned that the other work they are pushing for might be unsupported if enough people leave the EFF. I am not saying that the EFFs actions are okay here, and we should seriously consider other options from now on, but we cannot forget about the other efforts they are doing to help keep our last remaining digital rights in check.

                                I really don't know what to make of all this (just like Debian), we need them, but they broke our trust and I don't know what the future holds now. I am very confused if I should even award them this last sliver of doubt.... I guess I just am still in denial that the EFF of all organizations would fumble this hard.

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                                #40

                                @corigan01 @eff yeah ... The grief and betrayal is hard. You don't have to act rashly. Take the time you need to process this.

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                                • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                  Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                  #41

                                  @eff Whose side are you on? Fuck off!

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                                  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                    Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                    #42

                                    @eff boooooooooooooo

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                                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                      Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                      #43

                                      @eff bad take.

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                                      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                        Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                        #44

                                        @eff I disagree. To my mind, 'transformative' requires human intent.

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                                        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                          Training AI models on copyrighted works is "squarely what transformative use is," EFF’s Tori Noble told Reason - these are "general purpose tools" and "exactly the kind of creation that copyright is designed to foster.” https://reason.com/2026/09/04/doj-says-barring-ai-training-on-copyrighted-material-could-severely-hamper-tech-progress/

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                                          #45

                                          @eff I guess this is what burning all the bridges looks like

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