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  • tempusfelix@wehavecookies.socialT tempusfelix@wehavecookies.social

    @slothrop

    Oh ffs. Is there a service provider who isn’t fash or fash adjacent? Idonly just managed to migrate away from gmail!

    unitarybennu@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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    #66

    @tempusfelix
    Same... Luckily I was only using the free tier.
    @slothrop

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    • drsbaitso@infosec.exchangeD drsbaitso@infosec.exchange

      @alice @slothrop Yeah, unfortunately they had some bullshit around vocally supporting Trump and the christofascist GOP early last year. They got butthurt for getting called out on it and decided to "refocus [their] social media efforts" which meant slumbering their fediverse account.

      I canceled my Proton Founder's subscription and moved over to @fastmail specifically because they supported more private domains. I've been very happy with the service.

      The other recommendation I always see floating around is @Tutanota but they only documented 10 private domains when I was looking

      gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #67

      @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota did you cancel before the billing cycle expired? If so, did they do a partial refund? I still have 1.5 years paid for.

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      • gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.comG gabriel@fedi.gvisoc.com

        @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota did you cancel before the billing cycle expired? If so, did they do a partial refund? I still have 1.5 years paid for.

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        #68

        @gabriel @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota I'd only done annual billing, not multi-year. I migrated a few weeks before expiration, so I didn't even both with asking for a partial refund.

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        • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

          RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

          If you’re still using Proton mail:

          The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

          If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

          UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

          https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

          #proton #fash

          wcbdata@vis.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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          #69

          @slothrop @protonprivacy - WTAF?

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          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

            RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

            If you’re still using Proton mail:

            The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

            If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

            UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

            #proton #fash

            moortaube@mstdn.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #70

            @slothrop Is that true, @protonprivacy?

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            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

              RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

              If you’re still using Proton mail:

              The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

              If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

              UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

              #proton #fash

              tubsta@social.bsdlab.auT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #71
              @slothrop @thelinuxEXP looks like Proton is up to its usual garbage again
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              • danie1@mastodon.nlD danie1@mastodon.nl

                @slothrop Proton is not sponsoring this Vincent. They have a program that if you bring a new client you get a small amount. https://proton.me/partners

                And the personal page this Vincent is referring to has been taken down. Check yourself https://proton.me/VincentLapierre

                realgnomidad@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #72

                @danie1 @slothrop
                I was looking for independent verification of this claim, and your comments Danie feel more like the truth. I use Proton and like it, so I don't think I need to rush out and drop it, although the original post was certainly eye catching.

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                • yaxu@post.lurk.orgY yaxu@post.lurk.org

                  @slothrop Anyone can sign up to be an affiliate as part of their partners program. Seems more plausible than a swiss email company taking the time to sponsor a far right youtuber? https://proton.me/partners/affiliates

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                  #73

                  @yaxu @slothrop

                  We are resellers. They don’t make it easy to find the Workspace link, but you can do it this way.

                  Go here. https://go.getproton.me/aff_c?offer_id=50&aff_id=5239
                  That will take to a deal for Proton VPN.
                  On that page, scroll down to the section called “Choose a plan and protect your business.”
                  Click the option on the right for Workspace Standard. It will show the discounted rate of $12.99.

                  They apologized to us — this deal is so new that the links aren’t totally set up yet.

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                  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                    If you’re still using Proton mail:

                    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                    #proton #fash

                    ku@c.imK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #74

                    A list of alternatives for those who're interested : It's old but updated often I think:
                    https://digdeeper.club/articles/email.xhtml

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                    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                      @nileane fixed. Thanks!

                      gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #75

                      @slothrop @nileane

                      This is fake news, it is just an affiliate link. Please stop this nonsense

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                      • gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #76

                        @Infoseepage @gatogatogato @slothrop

                        What are you talking about? His social media handle is andyyyen. Why is everyone on this thread spreading fake news? Do better.

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                        • schroedingerspossum@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #77

                          @Infoseepage @slothrop
                          To be fair I looked the guy up and he was born in 1988. I'm quite sure that there is no intended connection to the nazi meaning.

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                          • gotofritz@hachyderm.ioG gotofritz@hachyderm.io

                            @slothrop @nileane

                            This is fake news, it is just an affiliate link. Please stop this nonsense

                            nileane@nileane.frN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #78

                            @gotofritz @slothrop If that's the case, that's up to Proton to clarify. Because right now it's presented as a sponsor: the video has a sponsor segment, and Lapierre even thanks Proton for sponsoring him.

                            If he's lying, then Proton should state that he lied.
                            + him "just using an affiliate link" would still mean that Proton is okay with a fascist influencer bringing them money and customers.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @draNgNon @alice @slothrop

                              i didn't feel like saying and then got all defensive 🤭

                              it's cool, we cool

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                              #79

                              @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop

                              I've been self-hosting my email for... 15-20 years now? Maybe I should offer that as a "pay-what-you-like/can" service...

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                              • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                                @benroyce @draNgNon @alice @slothrop

                                I've been self-hosting my email for... 15-20 years now? Maybe I should offer that as a "pay-what-you-like/can" service...

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                                #80

                                @woozle @draNgNon @alice @slothrop

                                only to people you trust. otherwise you might be opening yourself up to a headache

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                                • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                  RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                  If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                  The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                  If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                  UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                  #proton #fash

                                  engravecavedave@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #81

                                  @slothrop 😢

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                                  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                    If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                    #proton #fash

                                    rsn@framapiaf.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #82

                                    @slothrop @blast_info à changer là 👉 https://www.blast-info.fr/contact Merci d'avance

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @alice @slothrop

                                      we also used to like #twitter

                                      the unfortunate truth is plutocrats can destroy any company by buying it out

                                      the only solution is to side eye any for profit business venture. it can be bought out, and once bought out, it can be gutted of its original purpose

                                      of course there's also the phenomenon of the #techbro founding a company and winning adulation and *then* we find out about their true sentiments

                                      (hello, #bluesky )

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                                      #83

                                      @benroyce @alice @slothrop

                                      Until we get rid of the "TECHBRO" or breed them out and get ourselves the ever-elusive "TECHMENSCH" there will always be an enshittificatory factor around and startups and emerging companies that are thought of as prey.

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                                      • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @alice @slothrop

                                        Until we get rid of the "TECHBRO" or breed them out and get ourselves the ever-elusive "TECHMENSCH" there will always be an enshittificatory factor around and startups and emerging companies that are thought of as prey.

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                                        #84

                                        @oscarfalcon @benroyce @alice @slothrop

                                        People shall not be free until the last techbro is strangled with the entrails of the last megapreacher.
                                        --D Diddy

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                                        • spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.placeS spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I’ve created a mailbox.org account early last month (shortly before google went all google) and am slowly moving things over there. Haven’t encountered any evil yet. Only hiccups were that some things weren’t properly localized, like one confirmation link mail was in German, that was pretty self explanatory tho

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                                          #85

                                          @SpuCodes @Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I've been using mailbox for over a year. Works great for me, but I literally just use it for mail.

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