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  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

    If you’re still using Proton mail:

    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

    #proton #fash

    acid@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    acid@ohai.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #45

    @slothrop Oh man, I just switched to proton because the mail provider I used before is owned by a fascist /o\

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    • jago@mementomori.socialJ jago@mementomori.social

      @slothrop from one fascist arsehole service to another. Fuck this shit, I think I'm going back to my own domain.

      kleisli@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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      kleisli@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #46

      @jago why did you think you need more than an IMAP&SMTP server with your own domain? @slothrop

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      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

        If you’re still using Proton mail:

        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

        #proton #fash

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        roboro@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #47

        @slothrop totally depressed by this. It has been a challenge to migrate all of my mail and friends and family on my domain off of Google's crap infrastructure. Have struggled with some shortcomings in Proton - their alias handling etc is terrible - but I am really upset to hear about fascist leanings etc. I just don't know how to up and migrate a whole bunch of people after a few months of getting people used to the shift.
        Why is the world so full of horrible people?

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        • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

          @yaxu well, your call, I guess?

          yaxu@post.lurk.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
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          yaxu@post.lurk.org
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #48

          @slothrop Anyone can sign up to be an affiliate as part of their partners program. Seems more plausible than a swiss email company taking the time to sponsor a far right youtuber? https://proton.me/partners/affiliates

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          • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

            RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

            If you’re still using Proton mail:

            The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

            If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

            UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

            #proton #fash

            lli@mastodon.lli.beL This user is from outside of this forum
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            lli@mastodon.lli.be
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #49

            @slothrop

            Entièrement raison, c'est une farce.

            https://www.numerama.com/tech/736940-protonmail-transmet-des-adresses-ip-a-la-police-4-questions-pour-comprendre-la-polemique.html

            https://www.justgeek.fr/proton-mail-fbi-donnees-anonymat-147761/

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            • tempusfelix@wehavecookies.socialT tempusfelix@wehavecookies.social

              @slothrop

              Oh ffs. Is there a service provider who isn’t fash or fash adjacent? Idonly just managed to migrate away from gmail!

              ratfactor@mastodon.artR This user is from outside of this forum
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              ratfactor@mastodon.art
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #50

              @tempusfelix @slothrop Ethics/sustainability/privacy are some of the reasons I chose Runbox:

              https://runbox.com/about/

              They're also on the Fediverse: @runbox

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              • uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.netU uriel@bbs.keinpfusch.net

                @internic @slothrop you know perfectly this is not how advertisement on ads work... bye

                barubary@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                barubary@infosec.exchange
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #51

                @uriel What do you mean by "advertisement on ads"?

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                • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                  @draNgNon @benroyce @alice fwiw, I use a managed hosting service that includes email, on my own domain.

                  This may sound a little complicated, but it isn’t really. I set it up following the provider’s howtos. That was ca. 15 years ago, and it’s just been ticking along.

                  If that provider ever goes bad, I can just take my stuff elsewhere. The service itself is basically a commodity.

                  drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  drangnon@hachyderm.io
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #52

                  @slothrop well, despite comments to @benroyce about opsec...

                  so... I started using Proton just to move storage to the EU.

                  in that sense, for email, it's behind my own domain and could just be migrated (i.e. what you said doesn't sound complicated at all, other than DMARC issues).

                  but the other thing I use them for is photos, end2end encrypted, that then don't have to be also stored on my phone. migrating that would be more challenging. I looked for alternatives for a couple years, before establishing a Proton account.

                  @benroyce @alice

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                  • theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.socialT theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social

                    @slothrop @nileane I see. Can you recommend any reading I can reference in a support ticket, while I see how they respond?

                    I have already paid ahead for a year so, even if I swap today my money is already in their hands for services I paid up front for. I would prefer to pressure them by threatening I can take my money with me on my next payment date, rather than silently leaving without explaining why.

                    glowl@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    glowl@chaos.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #53

                    @theeclecticdyslexic @slothrop @nileane i do not think they will change their stance as their c?o/founder already supported trump and spewed other hyper capitalist right ideology shit himself.

                    and given that history i would still move anyways no matter what capitalsit ass saving response you get.

                    and i think you can just link to the french wikipedia. as proton embraced all this AI bullshit they will be able to translate (badly) themselves.

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                    • strangenoises@mastodon.socialS strangenoises@mastodon.social

                      @Brett_E_Carlock @drsbaitso @alice @slothrop @fastmail @Tutanota I have been considering Mailbox.org for my eventual flight from gmail. It seems more like a basic ye olde mail provider rather than another lock-in. Someone can now tell me why they’re evil too… 😩

                      spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      spucodes@mastodon.gamedev.place
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #54

                      @Brett_E_Carlock @slothrop @Tutanota @drsbaitso @StrangeNoises @alice @fastmail I’ve created a mailbox.org account early last month (shortly before google went all google) and am slowly moving things over there. Haven’t encountered any evil yet. Only hiccups were that some things weren’t properly localized, like one confirmation link mail was in German, that was pretty self explanatory tho

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                      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                        RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                        If you’re still using Proton mail:

                        The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                        If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                        UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                        #proton #fash

                        shemjm@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                        shemjm@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                        shemjm@social.vivaldi.net
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #55

                        @slothrop never heard of that YouTuber. What makes him far right/fascist?

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                        • glowl@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          glowl@chaos.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #56

                          @Infoseepage @gatogatogato @slothrop or mailbox.org or posteo

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                          • albi@furry.engineerA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            albi@furry.engineer
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #57

                            @Arthfach @tempusfelix @slothrop it's cool, but please start charging for what actually causes costs rather than just alias/mailbox amount. I would much rather hit a rate limit than choose which alias im ok with being leaked and spammed.

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                            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                              RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                              If you’re still using Proton mail:

                              The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                              If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                              UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                              #proton #fash

                              maya_b@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              maya_b@hachyderm.io
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #58

                              @slothrop

                              migrating to tuta.com from proton was rather painless, even with custom domains. took a couple of hours including reading some light documentation. On the Tuta side, most of it guides you through everything you need to do so no real reason to even read the docs it turned out.

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                              • nando161@partyon.xyzN nando161@partyon.xyz

                                @lienrag @slothrop I assume so, I will login today and make sure I can though.

                                ku@c.imK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                ku@c.im
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #59

                                @nando161 I'm on disroot as I could never find someone to invite me to riseup : can I please get an invite? 🙏

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                                • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                  RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                  If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                  The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                  If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                  UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                  #proton #fash

                                  mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  mast0d0nphan@beige.party
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #60

                                  @slothrop

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                                  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                                    RE: https://nileane.fr/@nileane/116704285750838861

                                    If you’re still using Proton mail:

                                    The company is sponsoring the videos of French far-right / fascist YouTuber Vincent Lapierre.

                                    If encryption is part of your vision for a better society, find a better service provider.

                                    UPDATE 2026-06-08: Response from Proton. This comes after mods apparently deleted lots of critical posts in r/ProtonMail.

                                    https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1u05xs2/comment/oqgihvq/

                                    #proton #fash

                                    s_d_brath@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    s_d_brath@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #61

                                    @slothrop yeah, but at least they are european fascists and not those damn foreign ones.

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                                    • s_d_brath@mastodon.socialS s_d_brath@mastodon.social

                                      @slothrop yeah, but at least they are european fascists and not those damn foreign ones.

                                      slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      slothrop@chaos.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #62

                                      @s_d_brath not like we have to rely on imports for our fascism here in Europe

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                                      • shadowfals@toot.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #63

                                        @mzungu porkbun is what I keep seeing recommended for those moving away from Namecheap this weekend.

                                        You might find more info in the talk of Namecheap's role in taking down #Neocities yesterday for no sensible reason.

                                        What I picked up regarding porkbun from comments and Wikipedia is it moved from Florida (fascist state gov) to Oregon (complicated). Its company had originally held the .gay domain but released it to the public. (.gay was later picked up again by a registrar through legal mechanisms I know nothing about.)

                                        @nileane @slothrop

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                                        • shadowfals@toot.catS shadowfals@toot.cat

                                          @mzungu porkbun is what I keep seeing recommended for those moving away from Namecheap this weekend.

                                          You might find more info in the talk of Namecheap's role in taking down #Neocities yesterday for no sensible reason.

                                          What I picked up regarding porkbun from comments and Wikipedia is it moved from Florida (fascist state gov) to Oregon (complicated). Its company had originally held the .gay domain but released it to the public. (.gay was later picked up again by a registrar through legal mechanisms I know nothing about.)

                                          @nileane @slothrop

                                          mtconleyuk@mastodonapp.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          mtconleyuk@mastodonapp.uk
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #64

                                          @shadowfals @mzungu @nileane @slothrop
                                          I moved all my email to Migadu.com, who provide straightforward email management, full control of spam filtering and so forth, and no bullshit. Company is in Switzerland with servers in France.

                                          I use Porkbun for my domain registration because they, too, seemed quite straightforward and reasonably priced. Haven't heard anything bad about them yet (I mean, leaving Florida is always a plus, if you ask me).

                                          I played with Proton for a bit as a possible password manager, but it just isn't as good as 1Password (nothing is, sadly), so I ditched it.

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