I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming.
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
@kamstrup you chown’d that one.
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@jay @cstross @annehargreaves @kamstrup also man crontab v.s. man 5 crontab v.s. man 8 crontab "of COURSE 8 means programs and 5 means config"
@xabean @jay @cstross @annehargreaves @kamstrup old enough to remember system V where you knew which part of man you wanted for system calls, library functions or command line programs
But they were also more gentle times when people were actually paid to write useful documentation and the man pages were actually helpful
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@kamstrup
Actually, you can also use them to tell a short story like:
unzip | strip | touch | finger | grep | mount | fsck | unmount | sleep@dsw Except it's “umount” because the mental energy required to remember to leave out the “n” is less than the physical energy required to press just press the damn key, especially on an ASR33. /s
(Actually, last time I made a comment about this I was told that the reason was that very very early Unixes limited command lengths to 6 characters. There are two interpretations of the word “backward” in the phrase “backward compatibility”.)
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
@kamstrup and for non-English speakers ?
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@jay @cstross @annehargreaves @kamstrup The best `man` pages are written to be so opaque that the only people who can understand the `man` page are people who don't need the `man` page because they know it all already.
Or possibly because they wrote the `man` page themselves.
@angusm @jay @annehargreaves @kamstrup I used to write (and maintain) man pages for a living. What does that make *me*?
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@kamstrup or there are 2 where the name mirrors each-other like adduser useradd just for lols
@annehargreaves @kamstrup I really like the naming of the cat/tac pair.
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
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@angusm @jay @annehargreaves @kamstrup I used to write (and maintain) man pages for a living. What does that make *me*?
@cstross @angusm @jay @annehargreaves @kamstrup
A survivor.
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
@kamstrup "man" if you need something explained at you
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
DD because it's a funny reference to OS/360
AWK because the author initials
Excel because it's a excellent Visicalc
Edge because browsers are edgy
Safari because the internet is a jungle
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@jay @cstross @annehargreaves @kamstrup The best `man` pages are written to be so opaque that the only people who can understand the `man` page are people who don't need the `man` page because they know it all already.
Or possibly because they wrote the `man` page themselves.
@angusm @cstross @annehargreaves @kamstrup There used to be a time when the gold standard for a man page was "You should be able to reverse engineer the program from this manpage". I recently tried to work out how to configure Thermald. Those days are long long gone.
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
@kamstrup You have to grepulate it within the string.
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@kamstrup or fsck when you need to fsck
@renardboy @kamstrup fsck arnd && fnd out
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
@kamstrup bash - for how you treat your keyboard.
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I love how the Unix commands have such intuitive naming. Like 'find' if you need to find a file, or 'grep' if you need to grep for a string
@kamstrup Find has always frustrated me. I've found, locate(mlocate), to work much better for me.
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@kamstrup and for non-English speakers ?
@lallemandfabrice @kamstrup "grep" is not a word in english, it's actually an abbreviation of "g/re/p", a command in
edthat (g)lobally looks for a (r)egular (e)xpression and (p)rints matching stringsbut a lot of IT people actually use "grep" as a verb meaning "look through a file for mentions of a specific piece of text", like i might say "let me grep for this function", as in "let me look where this function's name is mentioned in the source code"
