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My kids complained once that my husband and I knew too much about technology; we were the wrong generation.

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  • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

    @paul_ipv6 @johntimaeus @wendynather of course that was also a time when I could call Tony Li at all hours with a problem.
    Cisco customer support isn’t that good any more.

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    #26

    @petrillic @johntimaeus @wendynather

    if you weren't running a cisco ios load with a cisco engineer's initials in the version string, you weren't a tier 1 isp. 🙂

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    • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

      @petrillic @johntimaeus @wendynather

      if you weren't running a cisco ios load with a cisco engineer's initials in the version string, you weren't a tier 1 isp. 🙂

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      #27

      @paul_ipv6 @petrillic @wendynather

      Putting in a ticket on a RocketPort terminal card and getting a call from Ted T'so, who had a driver fix in about 30 minutes made me realize how small the world was at that time.

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      • johntimaeus@infosec.exchangeJ johntimaeus@infosec.exchange

        @paul_ipv6 @petrillic @wendynather

        Putting in a ticket on a RocketPort terminal card and getting a call from Ted T'so, who had a driver fix in about 30 minutes made me realize how small the world was at that time.

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        #28

        @johntimaeus @petrillic @wendynather

        yeah. we'd find bugs and talk to tony or paul or dino, then they'd have us put in a ticket w tac and email them them ticket number so they could grab it.

        when cisco "outlawed" talking directly to engineers, life really started to suck.

        had similar relationships with the sun foks.

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        • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

          @paul_ipv6 @johntimaeus @wendynather we all make mistakes

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          #29

          @petrillic @paul_ipv6 @wendynather

          The Dover training space was really nice. Top floor of an old fabric mill, owned by NorthWestern Mutual Insurance.
          They stored some of the art collection there.
          Renoir ballerina sketches hanging next to the elevators.

          The cafeteria was good too.

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          • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

            @johntimaeus @petrillic @wendynather

            yeah. we'd find bugs and talk to tony or paul or dino, then they'd have us put in a ticket w tac and email them them ticket number so they could grab it.

            when cisco "outlawed" talking directly to engineers, life really started to suck.

            had similar relationships with the sun foks.

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            #30

            @paul_ipv6 @petrillic @wendynather

            Names I'd forgotten.

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            • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

              @petrillic @johntimaeus @wendynather

              if you weren't running a cisco ios load with a cisco engineer's initials in the version string, you weren't a tier 1 isp. 🙂

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              #31

              @paul_ipv6 @johntimaeus @wendynather I think every router in the fleet ran a slightly custom build. Definitely edge v peer v core. Just fell over a lot.

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              • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

                @paul_ipv6 @johntimaeus @wendynather I think every router in the fleet ran a slightly custom build. Definitely edge v peer v core. Just fell over a lot.

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                #32

                @petrillic @johntimaeus @wendynather

                the internet is the "dancing bear" of networks.

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                • wollman@mastodon.socialW wollman@mastodon.social

                  @wendynather I once worked for Dave Clark, I think he's like 82 now. I've still got a few decades to go, thankfully.

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                  #33

                  @wollman @wendynather I’m 82 and I’m the main tech support for my friends and family.

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                  • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                    @petrillic @johntimaeus @wendynather

                    the internet is the "dancing bear" of networks.

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                    #34

                    @paul_ipv6 @johntimaeus @wendynather so much more fun before the MBA and VC got involved.

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                    • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

                      @paul_ipv6 @johntimaeus @wendynather we all make mistakes

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                      #35

                      @johntimaeus @wendynather @paul_ipv6 @petrillic just sounds to me like you all need to try again.

                      Back to dialup then? Take two? Anyone?

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                      • mitka@hachyderm.ioM mitka@hachyderm.io

                        @johntimaeus @wendynather @paul_ipv6 @petrillic just sounds to me like you all need to try again.

                        Back to dialup then? Take two? Anyone?

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                        #36

                        @mitka @johntimaeus @wendynather @petrillic

                        uucp.

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                        • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                          @mitka @johntimaeus @wendynather @petrillic

                          uucp.

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                          #37

                          @paul_ipv6 @mitka @johntimaeus @wendynather bigtex!utexas!petrilli

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                          • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

                            @paul_ipv6 @mitka @johntimaeus @wendynather bigtex!utexas!petrilli

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                            #38

                            @petrillic @mitka @johntimaeus @wendynather

                            uunet!selidor!pae

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                            • wendynather@infosec.exchangeW wendynather@infosec.exchange

                              RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jbhall56/117304799813737763

                              My kids complained once that my husband and I knew too much about technology; we were the wrong generation. I said, “Honey, who do you think BUILT the Internet?”

                              #MyLawnGetOffIt

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                              #39

                              @wendynather
                              Well young people today believe they invented hanging out (wait, I got a great new idea, we could just meet without any phones, eat snacks and talk!) and vegetable soup (uh, I just figured out that you could fry food BUT USE WATER INSTEAD OF OIL).

                              - don't expect them to understand the internet...

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                              • wendynather@infosec.exchangeW wendynather@infosec.exchange

                                RE: https://infosec.exchange/@jbhall56/117304799813737763

                                My kids complained once that my husband and I knew too much about technology; we were the wrong generation. I said, “Honey, who do you think BUILT the Internet?”

                                #MyLawnGetOffIt

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                                #40

                                @wendynather
                                @bsdphk

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                                • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

                                  @paul_ipv6 @wendynather it was. And PIP (our proposal) was the super future looking. So they decided to go with a monstrosity composed of a bunch of different things none of which are wrong necessarily but which don’t tell a cohesive story. Combine that with the introduction of NAT and… well here we are 30 years later.

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                                  #41

                                  @petrillic @paul_ipv6 @wendynather

                                  In hindsight, it is obvious that there were IPng proposals and concepts NSA really didn't want to happen.

                                  For instance flow-routing would have made their "collect everything" a lot more expensive.

                                  Same, probably to a lesser degree with multi-homing.

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                                  • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                                    @wendynather

                                    i still apologize regularly for having helped build the internet. 😉

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                                    @paul_ipv6 @wendynather the one that really needs to apologize is the one who let the ads in. When they let for profit use into the internet, that was the worst possible decision and responsible for the current mess/the beginning of enshittification.

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                                    • petrillic@hachyderm.ioP petrillic@hachyderm.io

                                      @johntimaeus @paul_ipv6 @wendynather well actually… not responsible but did deploy a lot of it with Fore Systems and then Xylan when I was at Optical Data Systems.

                                      The future is so bright it goes 155!

                                      Or 25 if you’re some weirdo at IBM.

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                                      #43

                                      @petrillic
                                      @johntimaeus @paul_ipv6 @wendynather

                                      There's a name I haven't heard in decades

                                      a long time ago, the group I worked with helped test Fore Systems' first fiber channel boards for a specific architecture. it was absurd at the time

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