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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

    linux@fairy.idL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #95

    @davidrevoy

    But the A.I. companies disagree, and that is what matters. / sarcasm, mostly.

    The unfortunate reality is even Disney has been fighting against A.I. usage, but somehow they're always given a pass. The closest they got to "winning" was a settlement once.

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    • mhunt@socel.netM mhunt@socel.net

      @davidrevoy laws are too slow updating to the use of A.I. I'm sorry you have to go trough this.

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      gbargoud@masto.nyc
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #96

      @mhunt @davidrevoy

      Laws already make so many shitty things people do with AI illegal. Enforcement has just decided not to care and let it slide.

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      • evelynoctavia@c.imE evelynoctavia@c.im

        @davidrevoy wow, the ai colored version does actually look disgusting.

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        paculino@tech.lgbt
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #97

        @EvelynOctavia @davidrevoy it's clearly different shapes altogether even. The arms are different lengths and it seems she has three knees??? Tiles are a different pattern, the expressions are different, and the angles are changed.

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        • discatte@digipres.clubD discatte@digipres.club

          @davidrevoy I had someone post aigen derivatives of some old 3d artists I was sharing back in the twitter days. I can only imagine the feeling of seeing that of my own works.

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          snailshell@sunny.garden
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #98

          @discatte @davidrevoy Gross!

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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            suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #99
            @davidrevoy That is the wrong way to try to solve the problem.

            By referring to slop machines as "AI", you are supporting corporation's propaganda.

            Why run proprietary software and SaaSS to check grammar? Your brain can do that and it seems free grammar checking programs already existed.

            I'm not confident copyright or moral wrongs laws even permits such restrictions anyway (restrictions on use are a terrible idea, even if legally valid and even if at the start it's only restricts immoral activities; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom-to-run.en.html).

            A correct way to try to solve the problem, that does not require modifying CC licenses, is to license CC BY-SA 4.0 and enforce the attribution part.

            >99% of the time someone makes a degenerated copy, they won't have included the attribution and/or added their own proprietary restrictions, thus you can demand that the slop is deleted and permanently terminate the license.
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            • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

              @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
              2. Tiles are wrong
              3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
              4. Curve to lower right is gone
              5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
              6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
              7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
              8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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              doctormo@floss.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #100

              @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy

              3. Bread, its a stochastic bread.

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                spitfire@mastodon.de
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #101

                @davidrevoy those generated images are revolting 😣

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                • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                  @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                  2. Tiles are wrong
                  3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                  4. Curve to lower right is gone
                  5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                  6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                  7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                  8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                  foxysen@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #102

                  @bstacey @f4grx @davidrevoy left arm is now severely undergrown compared to right arm

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                  • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                    @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                    2. Tiles are wrong
                    3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                    4. Curve to lower right is gone
                    5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                    6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                    7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                    8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                    kuba@ruby.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #103

                    @bstacey
                    n. left hand's point finger grown "AI bonus branching finger"

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                    • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                      @f4grx @davidrevoy 1. Cat is now on meth
                      2. Tiles are wrong
                      3. Broken plate replaced by lamp? sourdough boule?
                      4. Curve to lower right is gone
                      5. Tears missing, crying is now disturbingly moe-ified
                      6. Hair is now "princess-y" in a way that makes me have a bad feeling about the training data
                      7. Hat brim reshaped in a way that loses character
                      8. Hat has grown a Pilgrim buckle

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                      bstacey@icosahedron.website
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #104

                      @f4grx @davidrevoy 9. Hem of shirt has changed in a way that loses character
                      10. Pendant has changed, thin chain necklace has become a ribbon
                      11. Third knee?

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                        sm4llth1ng@mamot.fr
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #105

                        @davidrevoy ❤

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                          boz@mastodon.uno
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #106

                          @davidrevoy Edited: I was trapped by the title which is inclined to believe you adopted an esoteric copyright license, which in case it would not block who we intend to block, as LLM slop do not fall in copyright.

                          That's a new trend: tending to all rights reserved, or some restrictions reserved in the hope to stop LLM, but we are just stopping us from collaborating and LLM will grow anyway, and we lose.

                          Glad you are using moral rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_rights Thanks! Interesting.

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                            pelya@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #107

                            @davidrevoy
                            AI girl is crying
                            Over an unbroken pumpkin
                            There are no tears
                            ...lol

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                              mdhughes@appdot.net
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #108

                              @davidrevoy I don't get why meat puppets submit to the machine in the first place. But I extra don't get *sending you* the results.

                              If I was making garbage of someone's work, I'd just keep it to myself, or sell it without notice if I had no ethics.

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                hadokowa@mas.to
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #109

                                @davidrevoy I wonder how many of us chose Creative Common licenses with the obvious thinking that those licenses would forbid AI use?

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                                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                  @dajb @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy CC-BY does not allow AI training use because such use does not preserve attribution. It's great to be explicit about that, but there is no "the old license allowed it" loophole here.

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                                  dajb@social.coop
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #110

                                  @dalias @poleguy @cwebber @davidrevoy no

                                  If only it were that simple:

                                  "CC licenses apply only when copyright permission is required. If exceptions or limitations apply, then the CC license terms don’t apply."

                                  https://creativecommons.org/using-cc-licensed-works-for-ai-training-2/

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                    iscarlosmolero@landofooo.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #111

                                    @davidrevoy I remembered this tweet from the Pope while looking at the "Generative AI version" next to the OG version.

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                                    • P pirigoto@mastodonapp.uk

                                      @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy if you live in the UK it's fine if you do that with pigs, so long you are part of the political class

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                                      fandasin@social.linux.pizza
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #112

                                      @Pirigoto

                                      Obviously, pig having sex with pig is nothing to be frowned upon.😉

                                      @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy

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                                      • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                                        @f4grx @davidrevoy why do people even *do* that??

                                        “hey artist i like your work anyway i used a machine to make it better maybe you’ll like it” seems like a very deranged thing to do and yet

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                                        richrockster@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #113

                                        @h5e @f4grx @davidrevoy that “better” is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

                                        Whatever happened to respecting art and ideas? I can understand wanting to see a ‘finished’ version of the sketch in the example, but that’s not up to me or a machine to do so. Just leave it to the imagination - of which AI bros have none (imho)

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                                        • giacomo@snac.tesio.itG giacomo@snac.tesio.it
                                          @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          Consider to also add an explicit "training fee". Something like: you can use any of my images for generative AI training for 10€ each pixel.
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                                          the3rdcrow@masto.ai
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #114

                                          @giacomo @davidrevoy And add a "generation fee" of €10 per pixel training data used per generation

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