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"On the acceptance of GenAI"https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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  • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

    @tante

    AI in the modern age is not going away. You shouldn't be shamed for using it, and at this point you should expect it.

    Even when the bubble goes pop we are still going to have AI in some form. AI is a useful tool for many people, and it's great when you self host it.

    Also, most things AI "steals" isn't really stealing if it's free and public on the internet.

    Only thing I really can agree with is environment impacts. At this point though we muck up the environment so much with plastics, overusage of gas, mass deforestation, etc that I don't know how big of an impact that really has. Ideally we would use green forms of energy for everything, and new tech innovation would reduce the absurd amounts of power required to run these supercomputers. Hopefully the ARM architecture is that light in the dark.

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    #67

    @Synthyx@vivaldi.net @tante Utter bullshit.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      "On the acceptance of GenAI"
      https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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      #68

      @tante, love it. I'd use it if we weren't forbidding LLMs entirely.

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      • sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.socialS sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.social

        @Tywele @tante There are no good gen-AI companies.

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        #69

        @SharpCheddarGoblin @tante better doesn’t necessarily mean good.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          "On the acceptance of GenAI"
          https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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          #70

          @tante What about "I agree to pay unnecessary expenses for this company that is going to fail."

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            "On the acceptance of GenAI"
            https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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            #71

            @tante “theft”

            How far we’ve fallen from anticapitalism where a self described “communist” promotes the idea enriching existing monopolists through rent. What a fucking tool!

            I still remember that the information wants to be free.

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            • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

              @ai6yr @tante it seems pretty similar doesn't it? Taking what you want from a website, regardless of the host's intentions?

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              #72

              @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

              "There is literally no difference between you and a corporate product -- wait why are you booing me"

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              • finestructure@mastodon.socialF finestructure@mastodon.social

                @tante [ ] I accept that the continuing scraping of the internet is a strain on service providers, even ones that don’t want to participate

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                #73

                @finestructure @tante@tldr.nettime.org people should take active measures against bad actors. Robots.txt was nothing except a suggestion, and we scraping is literally how ever search engine works

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                • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                  @Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante

                  Data wants to be free. This argument simply doesn't work for those of us that have always been open data, anti copyright.

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                  #74

                  @komali_2 @Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante Data does not "want" anything. Data is incapable of having wants.

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                  • paelnever@masto.esP paelnever@masto.es

                    @tante @crankylinuxuser
                    And what if i train my own model in my own computer powered by solar with my own data?

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                    #75

                    @paelnever @tante @crankylinuxuser then a lot of the concerns would be alleviated but the model would most likely be garbage. If AI didn't need horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data to "function", AI companies would not use horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data.

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                    • paelnever@masto.esP paelnever@masto.es

                      @tante @crankylinuxuser
                      And what if i train my own model in my own computer powered by solar with my own data?

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                      #76

                      @paelnever @tante

                      The #MastodonHOA will still manufacture bullshit reasons to find you in contempt.

                      Remember, we're not permitted to have sane discussions of LLMs and other types of machine learning on Mastodon without the HOA's ire. It's all 'evil', going alllllll the way back to Eliza and spellcheck.

                      I mean, fuck. Even Ned Ludd realized that technology wasn't evil, but the centralization of the means of production to the owners was evil.

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                      • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                        @ai6yr @tante it seems pretty similar doesn't it? Taking what you want from a website, regardless of the host's intentions?

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                        #77

                        @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante Sorry, that’s nonsense. Your business model is not my problem (not you in particular, any possible you who runs an ad-supported business). If I like your service enough to look at it, it’s still my choice as to how much bs I’m willing to put up with. If that means your business isn’t profitable and has to shut down, that’s still my choice as to whether I want to support your business model or not. Everyone has a right to decide how valuable your service is to them.

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                        • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                          @paelnever @tante @crankylinuxuser then a lot of the concerns would be alleviated but the model would most likely be garbage. If AI didn't need horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data to "function", AI companies would not use horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data.

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                          #78

                          @ratsnakegames @paelnever @tante

                          A PID loop is "AI".

                          3 Neurons: differential, integral, proportional. Has a training phase and a recitation phase.

                          And yes, you use it. Its everywhere control systems are used.

                          Spellcheck was OHHHH SCARRRRYYYY AAAAIIIIII in the late 1980's. Now? Its just spell check. Nobody cows about AI with that now.

                          K-Nearest-Neighbors is multidimensional linear regression. Same with training and recitation.

                          Even Word2Vec and tokenization was theorized by Leibniz (you know, that OTHER calculus founder), as a way to do calculus with words.

                          "AI" only means scary unknown thing until we understand it.

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