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"On the acceptance of GenAI"https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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  • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

    @jrconlin @ai6yr @tante I understand that Mastodon is a public effort, and I have support it in a variety of ways. I've been doing patreon for 2-3 sites I didn't even use, even as I was hiring my own server separately.

    But even if we think it's a public effort, do we want it to be a declining one? Perhaps only for right-thinking people?

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    #64

    @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

    Yes. I would support this even if it was a declining effort. Because I would want to, and that's pretty much the same reason I would support any other effort. (there are a bunch of other "low value" projects I support, including a bunch of artists, musicians, programmers, and others. I'm weird that way. I like to make other folks happier.)

    I'm not "investing" in the platform. I'm not looking for any down market reward. It's a goofy project that a bunch of folk find either fun or useful.

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    • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

      @jrconlin @buckfiftyseven @tante How will the Fediverse possibly grow if you're always posting cryptic things?!? You need to start posting about fashion, and makeup, and how popular you are, like a NORMAL influencer. CMON! CRYPTOGRAPHY FASHION TIPS! 🤪

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      #65

      @ai6yr @buckfiftyseven @tante

      Sorry, I don't do things the normie's are talking about.

      ( Ok, seriously, that's actually kind of neat, and hopefully folk are doing testing about it, but I'm guessing she'd win anyway. )

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      • tywele@corteximplant.comT tywele@corteximplant.com

        @tante this implies that there are only US American AI companies. There are also EU AI companies which are arguably better.

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        #66

        @Tywele @tante There are no good gen-AI companies.

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        • synthyx@social.vivaldi.netS synthyx@social.vivaldi.net

          @tante

          AI in the modern age is not going away. You shouldn't be shamed for using it, and at this point you should expect it.

          Even when the bubble goes pop we are still going to have AI in some form. AI is a useful tool for many people, and it's great when you self host it.

          Also, most things AI "steals" isn't really stealing if it's free and public on the internet.

          Only thing I really can agree with is environment impacts. At this point though we muck up the environment so much with plastics, overusage of gas, mass deforestation, etc that I don't know how big of an impact that really has. Ideally we would use green forms of energy for everything, and new tech innovation would reduce the absurd amounts of power required to run these supercomputers. Hopefully the ARM architecture is that light in the dark.

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          #67

          @Synthyx@vivaldi.net @tante Utter bullshit.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            "On the acceptance of GenAI"
            https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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            #68

            @tante, love it. I'd use it if we weren't forbidding LLMs entirely.

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            • sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.socialS sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.social

              @Tywele @tante There are no good gen-AI companies.

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              #69

              @SharpCheddarGoblin @tante better doesn’t necessarily mean good.

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                "On the acceptance of GenAI"
                https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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                #70

                @tante What about "I agree to pay unnecessary expenses for this company that is going to fail."

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  "On the acceptance of GenAI"
                  https://smallsheds.garden/blog/2026/on-the-acceptance-of-genai/

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                  #71

                  @tante “theft”

                  How far we’ve fallen from anticapitalism where a self described “communist” promotes the idea enriching existing monopolists through rent. What a fucking tool!

                  I still remember that the information wants to be free.

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                  • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                    @ai6yr @tante it seems pretty similar doesn't it? Taking what you want from a website, regardless of the host's intentions?

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                    #72

                    @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante

                    "There is literally no difference between you and a corporate product -- wait why are you booing me"

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                    • finestructure@mastodon.socialF finestructure@mastodon.social

                      @tante [ ] I accept that the continuing scraping of the internet is a strain on service providers, even ones that don’t want to participate

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                      #73

                      @finestructure @tante@tldr.nettime.org people should take active measures against bad actors. Robots.txt was nothing except a suggestion, and we scraping is literally how ever search engine works

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                      • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                        @Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante

                        Data wants to be free. This argument simply doesn't work for those of us that have always been open data, anti copyright.

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                        #74

                        @komali_2 @Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante Data does not "want" anything. Data is incapable of having wants.

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                        • paelnever@masto.esP paelnever@masto.es

                          @tante @crankylinuxuser
                          And what if i train my own model in my own computer powered by solar with my own data?

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                          #75

                          @paelnever @tante @crankylinuxuser then a lot of the concerns would be alleviated but the model would most likely be garbage. If AI didn't need horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data to "function", AI companies would not use horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data.

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                          • paelnever@masto.esP paelnever@masto.es

                            @tante @crankylinuxuser
                            And what if i train my own model in my own computer powered by solar with my own data?

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                            #76

                            @paelnever @tante

                            The #MastodonHOA will still manufacture bullshit reasons to find you in contempt.

                            Remember, we're not permitted to have sane discussions of LLMs and other types of machine learning on Mastodon without the HOA's ire. It's all 'evil', going alllllll the way back to Eliza and spellcheck.

                            I mean, fuck. Even Ned Ludd realized that technology wasn't evil, but the centralization of the means of production to the owners was evil.

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                            • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                              @ai6yr @tante it seems pretty similar doesn't it? Taking what you want from a website, regardless of the host's intentions?

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                              #77

                              @buckfiftyseven @ai6yr @tante Sorry, that’s nonsense. Your business model is not my problem (not you in particular, any possible you who runs an ad-supported business). If I like your service enough to look at it, it’s still my choice as to how much bs I’m willing to put up with. If that means your business isn’t profitable and has to shut down, that’s still my choice as to whether I want to support your business model or not. Everyone has a right to decide how valuable your service is to them.

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                              • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                                @paelnever @tante @crankylinuxuser then a lot of the concerns would be alleviated but the model would most likely be garbage. If AI didn't need horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data to "function", AI companies would not use horrendous amounts of hardware, energy and stolen data.

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                                #78

                                @ratsnakegames @paelnever @tante

                                A PID loop is "AI".

                                3 Neurons: differential, integral, proportional. Has a training phase and a recitation phase.

                                And yes, you use it. Its everywhere control systems are used.

                                Spellcheck was OHHHH SCARRRRYYYY AAAAIIIIII in the late 1980's. Now? Its just spell check. Nobody cows about AI with that now.

                                K-Nearest-Neighbors is multidimensional linear regression. Same with training and recitation.

                                Even Word2Vec and tokenization was theorized by Leibniz (you know, that OTHER calculus founder), as a way to do calculus with words.

                                "AI" only means scary unknown thing until we understand it.

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