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New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    @davidrevoy Are you doing this *in addition to* CC BY / CC BY-SA btw?

    Note that it might be possible: CC BY's legal code says:

    > Moral rights, such as the right of integrity, are not licensed under this Public License, nor are publicity, privacy, and/or other similar personality rights; however, to the extent possible, the Licensor waives and/or agrees not to assert any such rights held by the Licensor to the limited extent necessary to allow You to exercise the Licensed Rights, but not otherwise.

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    #18

    @davidrevoy Hm, re-reading, maybe not possible to do in addition to this term. It's been so long since I thought about moral rights clauses.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #19

      @davidrevoy I had someone post aigen derivatives of some old 3d artists I was sharing back in the twitter days. I can only imagine the feeling of seeing that of my own works.

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      • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

        @farbenstau @davidrevoy you can add exceptions to licenses. It renders them incompatible but thats the exact goal.

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        #20

        @f4grx @davidrevoy But you are normally not allowed to call them by the original license name, because the original creator of the license has a right to the name. Just like you cannot commercially sell Mercedes cars with original Mercedes branding still on them when you've swapped out the engines for your custom, non-Mercedes ones.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

          be@floss.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #21

          @davidrevoy I'm sorry you have to do this.

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

            josch@floss.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #22

            @davidrevoy I'm 100% with you on this. All power to you! I hope things will get better for you.

            For my own software I had a clause "You are not allowed to use this software to train your LLM" until Guillem Jover (dpkg) pointed out that this would make my software non-free in the eyes of the Debian Free Software Guidelines and other definitions of free software (use for any endeavor).

            It's a pity that the principles on which free software was founded decades ago can now be used against it.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

              grum999@social.maou-maou.frG This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #23

              @davidrevoy olalala nan mais quelle misère...
              Comment c'est possible ? Si les personnes qui t'écrivent avec leurs propositions s'intéressaient un temps soit peu à ton travail, ils devraient comprendre que l'IA n'est pas la bienvenue..

              Courage

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #24

                @davidrevoy

                Finished? In their eyes maybe...

                But what if you were planning to go all Goth with it...

                Or pastel...

                ----
                Let the originators do the finishing.

                #Geez
                😱

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                • dajb@social.coopD dajb@social.coop

                  @cwebber @davidrevoy Isn't this what CC BY-ND is for? 🤔

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                  #25

                  @dajb @cwebber @davidrevoy I'd think it would be easier to start with CC BY-ND and then add an exception to allow for derivatives if they were not AI.

                  However, I am not a lawyer. Also: possession is nine-tenths of the law, and the AI companies have already trained on the data.

                  Laws, contracts and licenses are only useful if all parties actually agree to the terms. The written text of the licenses is really only to avoid confusion about the agreement. But the AI companies don't show good faith.

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                  • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                    @h5e @davidrevoy I agree, it's deranged.

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                    #26

                    @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy
                    Since I'm not actually deranged (externally verified), the very notion of feeding someone else's work into an Ai to "improve" or "expand" it brings on a powerful retch reflex.

                    Seems about as acceptable as raping a sheep on the town square at midday.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                      #27

                      @davidrevoy There is zero emotion in the AI rendering... the kids looks asleep and the cat looks dead...

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                        rick@a.n0id.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #28
                        @davidrevoy its so sad that ppl send you ai gen stuff and think you would like it.. especially you are always openly against it.

                        Thanks you so much again for making this beautiful pieces of real art
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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                          ryunoki@layer8.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #29

                          @davidrevoy Might want to have https://slashpages.net/#ai redirect to your blog post 😺

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                            #30

                            @davidrevoy This is news-worthy.

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                            • josch@floss.socialJ josch@floss.social

                              @davidrevoy I'm 100% with you on this. All power to you! I hope things will get better for you.

                              For my own software I had a clause "You are not allowed to use this software to train your LLM" until Guillem Jover (dpkg) pointed out that this would make my software non-free in the eyes of the Debian Free Software Guidelines and other definitions of free software (use for any endeavor).

                              It's a pity that the principles on which free software was founded decades ago can now be used against it.

                              bremner@mathstodon.xyzB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #31

                              @josch I've had a non free license on my web site for years, and I don't think it even slows down big-LLM, even if it gives me some small satisfaction.

                              Edit: this just CC-*-NC, which won't help the OP. @davidrevoy

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                              • efi@chitter.xyzE efi@chitter.xyz

                                @davidrevoy HELLING FUK THE ARM!!

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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #32
                                @efi @davidrevoy jfc i totally missed that (between the chubbier everything and the way her expression is totally changed and now it's like she's just waiting for you to throw a peanut in her mouth)
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                                • ophis@brain.worm.pinkO ophis@brain.worm.pink
                                  @efi @davidrevoy jfc i totally missed that (between the chubbier everything and the way her expression is totally changed and now it's like she's just waiting for you to throw a peanut in her mouth)
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                                  #33
                                  @efi @davidrevoy (and the three knees)
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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #34

                                    @davidrevoy
                                    I read yesterday that some scientists/researchers want to sue #OpenAI for using #data from their collective work to feed their #AI machine to crack a long-known conundrum.

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      @davidrevoy Glad you are doing something, a little uncertain what the license is exactly. But also, I kind of suspect, all of this stuff is a violation of even CC BY if these licenses were actually enforced and the other FOSS orgs who might have influenced things hadn't dropped the ball; there's simply no way to preserve the "attribution soup" of these works...

                                      ryunoki@layer8.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #35

                                      @cwebber @davidrevoy

                                      Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
                                      https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

                                      These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

                                      I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

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                                      • ryunoki@layer8.spaceR ryunoki@layer8.space

                                        @cwebber @davidrevoy

                                        Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
                                        https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

                                        These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

                                        I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

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                                        #36

                                        @RyunoKi @davidrevoy CC the institution, maybe not. But the legalcode still requires attribution.

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                          #37

                                          @davidrevoy Honestly, we need a CC-NOAI license.

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