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  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

    “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

    Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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    #16

    @stux 💕

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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

      Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

      dasgrueneblatt@wien.rocksD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #17

      @stux

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      • landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL landelare@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @stux s/ChatGPT/Wikipedia/, this didn't start today 🙂

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        #18

        @landelare @stux These are not at all the same.

        Use of an encyclopedia is an incredibly valuable academic and personal learning skill. The trash talk about Wikipedia was all olds shitting on youngs under the belief that something hardbound and written by old white guys and full of their biases was more proper and authoritative, not about learning methodology.

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

          Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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          #19

          @stux@mstdn.social

          Idiocracy is here, now and thriving.
          I pity the latest generations; we as a species are royally screwed.

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          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

            “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

            Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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            #20

            @stux

            Very apt analogy!

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            • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
              @stux Or teaching math that pocket calculators have been able to do since the ~80's
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              #21

              @lanodan @stux I still practice mental arithmetic. On occasion, I get to show off in public.

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

                patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #22

                @stux yeah we should give them practical skills that AI won't be able to do, like using their tiny fingers to polish the inside of shell casings

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                • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
                  @stux Or teaching math that pocket calculators have been able to do since the ~80's
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                  #23

                  @lanodan
                  such teachings go well into universities! where will it stop! /s

                  (okay, not sure about 80s calculators, but the TI-92... What a beast.)
                  @stux

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                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                    “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                    Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                    #24

                    @stux *might or might not correctly retrieve*

                    Also we were given exams which forced us to work things out and show the workings. A right answer was a tiny part of the mark. We were allowed to bring cheat sheets even, because we can always look things up IRL but we still would have to know how to use the values and formulas.

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                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                      “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                      Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                      #25

                      @stux they made me memorize foreign language words despite the fact that they are right over there in a dictionary. Why do I need them, that's beyond me!

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                      • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                        @landelare @stux These are not at all the same.

                        Use of an encyclopedia is an incredibly valuable academic and personal learning skill. The trash talk about Wikipedia was all olds shitting on youngs under the belief that something hardbound and written by old white guys and full of their biases was more proper and authoritative, not about learning methodology.

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                        #26

                        @dalias
                        They had issues with it being editable by anyone, who wasn't necessarily qualified. We physics students still used it like, personally I read the article then read the references and put the references in my bibliography but not the Wikipedia article.

                        @landelare @stux

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                        • licho@kolektiva.socialL licho@kolektiva.social

                          @stux they made me memorize foreign language words despite the fact that they are right over there in a dictionary. Why do I need them, that's beyond me!

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                          #27

                          @stux Why would I learn mathematics when I have a calculator? why would I learn to play guitar when I can just play a recording of someone playing? Wikipedia has all the knowledge so why bother

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                          • econads@mendeddrum.orgE econads@mendeddrum.org

                            @dalias
                            They had issues with it being editable by anyone, who wasn't necessarily qualified. We physics students still used it like, personally I read the article then read the references and put the references in my bibliography but not the Wikipedia article.

                            @landelare @stux

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                            #28

                            @econads @landelare @stux There's a difference in the talking point they use to attack it and what their actual issue is. "Anyone can edit it" did not actually mean "it might contain errors or misinformation because of a recent edit that was misinformed or malicious". It meant "the wrong type of people" are involved in the writing. Yes, in that sense.

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                            • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                              “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                              Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                              #29

                              @stux I recently went for a walk only to arrive right back at home. Turns out I could've simply stayed home and saved myself a good 30 minutes of time!

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                              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                #30

                                @stux we are doing the same thing to science in the US

                                https://berryvilleiml.com/2026/10/09/biml-does-science/

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                                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                                  @econads @landelare @stux There's a difference in the talking point they use to attack it and what their actual issue is. "Anyone can edit it" did not actually mean "it might contain errors or misinformation because of a recent edit that was misinformed or malicious". It meant "the wrong type of people" are involved in the writing. Yes, in that sense.

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                                  #31

                                  @econads @landelare @stux This is exactly the same reason the same people who were yelling at kids "don't trust what you read on the internet" are now trusting every piece of propaganda and slop in their Facebook feeds.

                                  Then, "on the internet" meant queer anarchist hackers. Now it means "right wing disinformation machines".

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                                  • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                    “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                    Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                    #32

                                    @stux also ChatGPT is *not* that fast

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                                    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                      “We’re sending kids to school to memorize facts that ChatGPT can retrieve in under a second.”

                                      Yeah worst of all, gym classes are making them run a mile that Uber can cover in less than a minute

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                                      #33

                                      @stux
                                      I'm not going to take seriously the opinions of someone who thinks you go to school to "memorise facts"

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                                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                                        @Remittancegirl Oh yeah! Facts and such are so important

                                        Basic knowledge

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                                        #34

                                        @stux @Remittancegirl especially when you're surrounded by nonsense that's being reproduced at light speed.

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                                        • asprinkleofsage@mastodon.socialA asprinkleofsage@mastodon.social

                                          @stux people who think school is just about memorising a long list of facts missed the whole point of school

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                                          #35

                                          @ASprinkleofSage @stux Tell that to my history teacher (in the 60s/70s)!

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