Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Ikke-kategoriseret
  3. Dear Fedi friends,

Dear Fedi friends,

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Ikke-kategoriseret
noai
150 Indlæg 97 Posters 0 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

    Do you have any recommendations?

    So far, at the top of my list I have:

    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

    heuveltop@social.vivaldi.netH This user is from outside of this forum
    heuveltop@social.vivaldi.netH This user is from outside of this forum
    heuveltop@social.vivaldi.net
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #106

    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante

    I would like to mention @Felienne to you.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      astrohyde@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
      astrohyde@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
      astrohyde@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #107

      @_elena I think everyone I follow is #NoAI lol, I went from teaching data sci and physics to teaching how to circumvent/remove #LLMs in data sci and physics... it's tough for the kids trying to learn through this slop 🙃 One thing I think helps a bit is to specify when dragging #LLM_AI vs #DecisionTree_AI #NeuralNet_AI or #Statistical_AI etc. Alot of phys/ data sci here uses #AI as a catchall for all of #datascience including #MachineLearning so it can get confusing (is likely meant to be lol).

      srvanderplas@datavis.socialS 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        darby3@zirk.usD This user is from outside of this forum
        darby3@zirk.usD This user is from outside of this forum
        darby3@zirk.us
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #108

        @_elena doing what i can

        https://ai-sucks-actually.fyi/

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          rowmyboat@glammr.usR This user is from outside of this forum
          rowmyboat@glammr.usR This user is from outside of this forum
          rowmyboat@glammr.us
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #109

          @_elena I do, in a very my corner of the world, which is academic libraries, kind of way. Snark, mostly, but also the occasional academic journal article or presentation.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • rosareven@gamerstavern.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
            rosareven@gamerstavern.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
            rosareven@gamerstavern.online
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #110

            @onepict @_elena @WeirdWriter
            omg i cri

            thank you for sharing this, best read in ages

            weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW 1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • rosareven@gamerstavern.onlineR rosareven@gamerstavern.online

              @onepict @_elena @WeirdWriter
              omg i cri

              thank you for sharing this, best read in ages

              weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              weirdwriter@caneandable.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
              weirdwriter@caneandable.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #111

              More to come! Here is an introduction by me, of sorts, but I'd also recommend reading, the Bookstore Hope. https://sightlessscribbles.com/about/ @rosareven @onepict @_elena

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • wtebbens@social.coopW wtebbens@social.coop

                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Add Aurora @tunubesecamirio - she is an amazing activist and public speaker with profound crutucism on AI for ecosocial reasons.

                The name of their activist project, Tu Nube Seca Mi Rio, is so wellchosen, so visual for the damage these hyperscalers are making. Worth checking a translator for, careful with the LLMs though 😉

                tunubesecamirio@masto.esT This user is from outside of this forum
                tunubesecamirio@masto.esT This user is from outside of this forum
                tunubesecamirio@masto.es
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #112

                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante

                Thanks for your words, @Wtebbens

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                  @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                  tunubesecamirio@masto.esT This user is from outside of this forum
                  tunubesecamirio@masto.esT This user is from outside of this forum
                  tunubesecamirio@masto.es
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #113

                  @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @Aepasek @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                  Merci Romuald!

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                    Do you have any recommendations?

                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                    grosser_mensch@norden.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                    grosser_mensch@norden.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                    grosser_mensch@norden.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #114

                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante He’s not in the Fediverse I think but I love his takes on all stories AI: https://pivot-to-ai.com/rss/

                    jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                      Do you have any recommendations?

                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                      leoschuldiner23@linernotes.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
                      leoschuldiner23@linernotes.clubL This user is from outside of this forum
                      leoschuldiner23@linernotes.club
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #115

                      @_elena Over here! I'm migrating to @leoschuldiner23@beige.party so, be my guest 🙂 #NoAI (and as a musician, especially in music industry). Cheers from Chile!

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • astrohyde@mastodon.socialA astrohyde@mastodon.social

                        @_elena I think everyone I follow is #NoAI lol, I went from teaching data sci and physics to teaching how to circumvent/remove #LLMs in data sci and physics... it's tough for the kids trying to learn through this slop 🙃 One thing I think helps a bit is to specify when dragging #LLM_AI vs #DecisionTree_AI #NeuralNet_AI or #Statistical_AI etc. Alot of phys/ data sci here uses #AI as a catchall for all of #datascience including #MachineLearning so it can get confusing (is likely meant to be lol).

                        srvanderplas@datavis.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                        srvanderplas@datavis.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                        srvanderplas@datavis.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #116

                        @AstroHyde @_elena the "is machine learning still AI" question is one that I keep running into. AI is just a terribly nonspecific term.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                          em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                          em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                          em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #117

                          @_elena @DAIR 🙋‍♀️ If that helps, I was quoted in this article calling AI the archenemesis of data privacy: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxie-marlinspike-wants-to-do-for-ai-what-he-did-for-messaging/

                          'Data privacy expert Em (she keeps her last name off the Internet) called AI assistants the “archnemesis” of data privacy because their utility relies on assembling massive amounts of data from myriad sources, including individuals.

                          “AI models are inherent data collectors,” she told Ars. “They rely on large data collection for training, improvements, operations, and customizations. More often than not, this data is collected without clear and informed consent (from unknowing training subjects or from platform users), and is sent to and accessed by a private company with many incentives to share and monetize this data.”'

                          em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • justin@social.younger.wtfJ justin@social.younger.wtf

                            @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

                            hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                            hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                            hikingdude@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #118

                            @Justin @_elena
                            We can agree to disagree.
                            I can just say that I see a lot of good usecase at work that makes my life easier

                            justin@social.younger.wtfJ 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              @_elena @DAIR 🙋‍♀️ If that helps, I was quoted in this article calling AI the archenemesis of data privacy: https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/signal-creator-moxie-marlinspike-wants-to-do-for-ai-what-he-did-for-messaging/

                              'Data privacy expert Em (she keeps her last name off the Internet) called AI assistants the “archnemesis” of data privacy because their utility relies on assembling massive amounts of data from myriad sources, including individuals.

                              “AI models are inherent data collectors,” she told Ars. “They rely on large data collection for training, improvements, operations, and customizations. More often than not, this data is collected without clear and informed consent (from unknowing training subjects or from platform users), and is sent to and accessed by a private company with many incentives to share and monetize this data.”'

                              em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                              em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
                              em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #119

                              @_elena Here's another public statement I made: https://infosec.exchange/@Em0nM4stodon/116109826119332018

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                                @Justin @_elena
                                We can agree to disagree.
                                I can just say that I see a lot of good usecase at work that makes my life easier

                                justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                justin@social.younger.wtf
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #120

                                @hikingdude @_elena You don't need to spend any time defending the billion dollar industry that has a laundry list of horrible things attached to it, war, theft, scamming, even if its made it easier to do some small little thing for you.
                                Hopefully at some point you see why its such a weird thing to go out of your way to post as a reply to her.

                                hikingdude@mastodon.socialH 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante I would clarify also that I am not quite #NoAI in terms of AI tech, but I am definitely opposed to the *AI industry* and this hype wave. There may be various useful things from this tech, but the net version of things with it being forced upon society right now in this hype wave is that everything is getting much worse, and sickeningly so.

                                  Several more pieces need to be added to the puzzle to make "AI" tech more useful, and I'm also simply opposed to a direction in society that dismisses and devalues creative endeavors, which a lot of this hype is putting at the center of itself. Creativity is what makes life largely worthwhile. I'm not willing to give that up.

                                  I have no problem with OpenImageDenoiser in Blender, which speeds up renders through machine learning, and in no way devalues creativity. But something which made it so I just typed a few words into Blender and it did all my artwork for me, I would oppose.

                                  eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE This user is from outside of this forum
                                  eeveecraft@dragonscave.spaceE This user is from outside of this forum
                                  eeveecraft@dragonscave.space
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #121

                                  @cwebber

                                  @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @jaredwhite @tante

                                  This is why it's so important to specify things like generative-AI. AI on its own is a meaningless nothing-word with how much it's shoved in everywhere and anywhere. Yeah, faster denoising with machine learning is great! But a slop machine that pollutes the environment and steals people's jobs and work for the purpose of deceiving others for capitalistic gain? Not so great.

                                  I love the AI that detects cancers better than doctors can, I love the AIs that automatically remove pauses from audio recordings, and I love the AI that automates boring, tedious sh!t that humans hate doing such as spreadsheet organizing. I just fucking hate generative-AI specifically.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • justin@social.younger.wtfJ justin@social.younger.wtf

                                    @hikingdude @_elena You don't need to spend any time defending the billion dollar industry that has a laundry list of horrible things attached to it, war, theft, scamming, even if its made it easier to do some small little thing for you.
                                    Hopefully at some point you see why its such a weird thing to go out of your way to post as a reply to her.

                                    hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    hikingdude@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #122

                                    @Justin @_elena
                                    I am a big opponent of hype and slop and misuse - but I'm a realist and expect that the technology won't go away. No matter wether I like it or not.

                                    So I don't regard it weird at all.

                                    But if you want me to take a position to be either a proponent OR opponent - well then I have to disappoint.

                                    justin@social.younger.wtfJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • grosser_mensch@norden.socialG grosser_mensch@norden.social

                                      @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante He’s not in the Fediverse I think but I love his takes on all stories AI: https://pivot-to-ai.com/rss/

                                      jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      jaredwhite@indieweb.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #123

                                      @grosser_mensch David Gerard? He is here! @davidgerard

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                        Do you have any recommendations?

                                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                        pythonbynight@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        pythonbynight@hachyderm.ioP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        pythonbynight@hachyderm.io
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #124

                                        @_elena Most (maybe all?) of my writing on my blog this year has been in response to tech-industry's harms in pushing LLMs.

                                        https://pythonbynight.com/blog

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • th@social.v.stT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          th@social.v.stT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          th@social.v.st
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #125

                                          @jwildeboer @blainsmith @_elena @jan do you know how to get the compiler to produce working executables on the Underwood Portable?

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Svar
                                          • Svar som emne
                                          Login for at svare
                                          • Ældste til nyeste
                                          • Nyeste til ældste
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Log ind

                                          • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          Graciously hosted by data.coop
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Hjem
                                          • Seneste
                                          • Etiketter
                                          • Populære
                                          • Verden
                                          • Bruger
                                          • Grupper