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Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

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  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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    #83

    @JadedBlueEyes don't worry

    "* This post was updated at 11:45 a.m. Pacific time to clarify that the use case described here is a proof of concept and a personal project. Some sections have been updated for clarity."

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    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

      Oh and to top things off, they make trivially false claims in their post. Tuwunel and its predecessors do not and have never used Postgres or Redis.

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      #84

      @JadedBlueEyes They updated their post, it now says Synapse instead of Tuwunel.

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      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

        https://lobste.rs/s/csxfc6/cloudflare_claimed_they_implemented#c_gychiy

        Quoting from one of my chat rooms:

        > Distributed protocols get extra complex once cryptography and security get in the mix and without a domain expert

        authentication isn't "extra complex", you literally removed signature checking. and hashes. And fucking authentication.

        > ensure this handles the myriad of edge cases that regularly plague Matrix implementations

        YOU REMOVED. AUTHENTICATION. THIS ISN'T SOME WEIRD EDGE CASE WITH STATE RESETS. YOU REMOVED AUTHENTICATION AND VALIDATION.

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        #85

        I swear every iteration of the blogpost is somehow worse. No, your starting point wasn’t Synapse either. Your starting point was the claude opus chatbox

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        • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

          @JadedBlueEyes They updated their post, it now says Synapse instead of Tuwunel.

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          #86

          @h5e https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115968861622285804

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          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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            #87

            @JadedBlueEyes thank you for your work on continuwuity. An actually good matrix implementation.

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            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

              Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

              https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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              #88

              @JadedBlueEyes lol

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              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                @h5e https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115968861622285804

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                #89

                @JadedBlueEyes oh sorry I missed that!

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                • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                  @JadedBlueEyes oh sorry I missed that!

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                  #90

                  @JadedBlueEyes ah we posted around the same time. I did check 😅

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                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                    #91

                    @JadedBlueEyes I am so glad we are well invested, giving all of the moneys to Cloudflare.

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                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                      This is a core part of the protocol, that's not exactly simple (https://spec.matrix.org/v1.17/server-server-api/#authorization-rules)

                      They just have TODO comments, and happily accept anything, even if it's blatantly forged

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                      #92

                      @JadedBlueEyes it’s post-quantum security: if you observe it it’s not there

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                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                        #93

                        @JadedBlueEyes Is this "blue screen of death" cloudflare?

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                        • ddritter@neopaquita.esD ddritter@neopaquita.es

                          @JadedBlueEyes From "vibe coding" to "vibe security".

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                          #94

                          @DDRitter@neopaquita.es @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt puts a paper plate on top of your server
                          Yeah that feels secure enough

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                          • bitofabother@swingset.socialB bitofabother@swingset.social

                            @petunia @JadedBlueEyes so like, on an emotional level I understand why people hate ORMs, but on a "people are very bad at databases" level ..................

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                            #95

                            @bitofabother in fairness, people are also very bad at ORMs...

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                            • tauon@possum.cityT tauon@possum.city

                              @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt

                              I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.
                              as if you should've been doing this in the first place

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                              #96
                              @tauon @JadedBlueEyes true but this is the giant rock excavator hitting a whole new substrate of rock bottom
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                              • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                #97

                                @JadedBlueEyes

                                Thank you for bringing your attention to this matter.

                                This #slopshard

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                                • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                  Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                                  https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                                  Archive link for posterity:

                                  https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                                  #98

                                  @JadedBlueEyes did anyone fork thier repo?

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                                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                    For those of you that don't know, I develop https://continuwuity.org - a Rust based Matrix homeserver that actually works, and that you can run on a Raspberry Pi, rather than someone else's centralized cloud infrastructure

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                                    #99

                                    @JadedBlueEyes does it scale? does it have the ability to delete CSAM when stupid edgelords device to upload it to your homeserver and then get you swatted?

                                    as always I want to believe there is a usable matrix homeserver... but it seems there is always a catch.

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                                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                      Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                      https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                      #100

                                      @JadedBlueEyes I stopped reading after:
                                      "But there is a "tax" to running it. Traditionally, operating a Matrix homeserver has meant accepting a heavy operational burden. You have to provision virtual private servers (VPS), tune PostgreSQL for heavy write loads, manage Redis for caching, configure reverse proxies, and handle rotation for TLS certificates. It’s a stateful, heavy beast that demands to be fed time and money, whether you’re using it a lot or a little."

                                      Mine runs on a small NAS 🤷‍♂️

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                                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                        #101

                                        @JadedBlueEyes internet is dead

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                                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                                          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                                          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                                          #102

                                          @JadedBlueEyes So, in layman's terms, does this mean they claimed they did a thing but did not actually do the thing, and no one checked whether they did the thing before they published the blog claiming they did the thing?

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