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  3. Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers.

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  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

    @h5e https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115968861622285804

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    #89

    @JadedBlueEyes oh sorry I missed that!

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    • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

      @JadedBlueEyes oh sorry I missed that!

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      #90

      @JadedBlueEyes ah we posted around the same time. I did check 😅

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      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

        Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

        https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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        #91

        @JadedBlueEyes I am so glad we are well invested, giving all of the moneys to Cloudflare.

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        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

          This is a core part of the protocol, that's not exactly simple (https://spec.matrix.org/v1.17/server-server-api/#authorization-rules)

          They just have TODO comments, and happily accept anything, even if it's blatantly forged

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          #92

          @JadedBlueEyes it’s post-quantum security: if you observe it it’s not there

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          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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            #93

            @JadedBlueEyes Is this "blue screen of death" cloudflare?

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            • ddritter@neopaquita.esD ddritter@neopaquita.es

              @JadedBlueEyes From "vibe coding" to "vibe security".

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              #94

              @DDRitter@neopaquita.es @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt puts a paper plate on top of your server
              Yeah that feels secure enough

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              • bitofabother@swingset.socialB bitofabother@swingset.social

                @petunia @JadedBlueEyes so like, on an emotional level I understand why people hate ORMs, but on a "people are very bad at databases" level ..................

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                #95

                @bitofabother in fairness, people are also very bad at ORMs...

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                • tauon@possum.cityT tauon@possum.city

                  @JadedBlueEyes@tech.lgbt

                  I’m not gonna be trusting anything Cloudflare after this.
                  as if you should've been doing this in the first place

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                  #96
                  @tauon @JadedBlueEyes true but this is the giant rock excavator hitting a whole new substrate of rock bottom
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                  • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                    Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                    https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                    #97

                    @JadedBlueEyes

                    Thank you for bringing your attention to this matter.

                    This #slopshard

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                    • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                      Oh look, they’re trying to cover up what they did too

                      https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

                      Archive link for posterity:

                      https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commit/2d3969dd5e795caa3641d0e237e2b52ca0502463

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                      #98

                      @JadedBlueEyes did anyone fork thier repo?

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                      • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                        For those of you that don't know, I develop https://continuwuity.org - a Rust based Matrix homeserver that actually works, and that you can run on a Raspberry Pi, rather than someone else's centralized cloud infrastructure

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                        #99

                        @JadedBlueEyes does it scale? does it have the ability to delete CSAM when stupid edgelords device to upload it to your homeserver and then get you swatted?

                        as always I want to believe there is a usable matrix homeserver... but it seems there is always a catch.

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                        • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                          Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                          https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                          #100

                          @JadedBlueEyes I stopped reading after:
                          "But there is a "tax" to running it. Traditionally, operating a Matrix homeserver has meant accepting a heavy operational burden. You have to provision virtual private servers (VPS), tune PostgreSQL for heavy write loads, manage Redis for caching, configure reverse proxies, and handle rotation for TLS certificates. It’s a stateful, heavy beast that demands to be fed time and money, whether you’re using it a lot or a little."

                          Mine runs on a small NAS 🤷‍♂️

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                          • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                            Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                            https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                            #101

                            @JadedBlueEyes internet is dead

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                            • jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbtJ jadedblueeyes@tech.lgbt

                              Cloudflare just published a vibe coded blog post claiming they implemented Matrix on cloudflare workers. They didn't, their post and README is AI generated and the code doesn't do any of the core parts of matrix that make it secure and interoperable. Instead it's littered with 'TODO: Check authorisation' and similar

                              https://blog.cloudflare.com/serverless-matrix-homeserver-workers/

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                              #102

                              @JadedBlueEyes So, in layman's terms, does this mean they claimed they did a thing but did not actually do the thing, and no one checked whether they did the thing before they published the blog claiming they did the thing?

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                              • joepie91@fedi.slightly.techJ joepie91@fedi.slightly.tech

                                @JadedBlueEyes This is almost a minor criticism in comparison to all the other crap, but I am so sick of companies calling things 'serverless' when what they really mean is "servers, but only ours and they're really opaquely billed and impossible to replace with someone else's servers so you're stuck with us, and also they're managed in a totally custom way so none of your normal sysadmin skills are portable to it but you still have to learn how to manage it"

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                                #103

                                @JadedBlueEyes @joepie91 we've just gone back to managed databases again: overpriced, billed by metrics that aren't easy to price, and totally impossible to manage.

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