After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans.
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug Unforunately, the bioengineered viruses have already spread too far. Shortly after your 30-50 feral Wikipedians exit the building holding garlands of cut fiber, they start coughing blood. By the end of the week, not one of them remains alive, nor does anyone else.
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@Illuminatus I mean I once watched the Roblox guy take out the entire region by tripping on a fiber optic cable and ripping it out of a switch. I think you'll be great.
@matdevdug @Illuminatus I've seen all internet for a town be taken out with one guy, and a mini-digger with an auger drill attached.
I dread to think how long it took to get all of that cable and fibre off the drill bit. It must have been miles of it. It took them weeks to restore service.
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@matdevdug @Illuminatus I've seen all internet for a town be taken out with one guy, and a mini-digger with an auger drill attached.
I dread to think how long it took to get all of that cable and fibre off the drill bit. It must have been miles of it. It took them weeks to restore service.
@weebull @matdevdug @Illuminatus
We saw much of the wired internet for two counties taken out by just that, about 9 or so months ago.ASIDE: One of our networking folks was able to pinpoint the location using their network trace tools & send us a Google Maps photo of where it happened. When the provider later sent out photos, turned out he was exactly right.
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@matdevdug Unforunately, the bioengineered viruses have already spread too far. Shortly after your 30-50 feral Wikipedians exit the building holding garlands of cut fiber, they start coughing blood. By the end of the week, not one of them remains alive, nor does anyone else.
@novalis @matdevdug
OK but what if we're talking IRL? Where the datacenter doesn't include a fully-equipped, completely automated, on-site bioengineering lab? -
After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug Do you even have to go inside? I've been looking at some of the emf based anti-drone technology being used on the modern battlefield and have to believe it would impart the same sort of destuction on the circuits inside a data center. Assuming it could be built 'at home'. I imagine its only a matter of time until we see someone try it.
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@matdevdug @inthehands Just for the sake of argument, a sufficiently intelligent AI would be aware of this. It could opt for a stealthy strategy instead, like getting most of the humanity addicted to short form videos or something and persuading them it’s in their best interest to keep the data centers running. Or offering a bunch of people the life of gods in endless surplus while keeping the rest of the people in poverty and distance.
@zoul @matdevdug @inthehands good thing the ai is not and never will be intelligent, because its nothing more than a generative algorithm and the claim of 'intelligence' is a red herring to distract you and investors from the scam
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
Lets say this is true
the 1st time there is serious vandalism, the next day, every AI CEO is calling his team: I want better security, STAT
the 2nd time this happens, the CEO gets that look you do not want to see and says to his team: there is not going to be a 3rd time
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug I've thought that data centers would be tremendously vulnerable to the tactic of sit-down strikes. A few people on the inside, a dozen or so on the outside to maintain communication through the doors, and a hundred or so general protestors around them, and you could keep a data center completely shut down for a long time.
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug well maybe we don't need humans. A few ducks (or maybe geese for the better!) can do the job already https://mastodon.online/@Pepijn/115021948428162829
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug Bold of you to assume all DCEs are capable of better cable management than a strip mall.
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@matdevdug Do you even have to go inside? I've been looking at some of the emf based anti-drone technology being used on the modern battlefield and have to believe it would impart the same sort of destuction on the circuits inside a data center. Assuming it could be built 'at home'. I imagine its only a matter of time until we see someone try it.
@Hextore @matdevdug All those portable generators outside with their temporary gas lines are extremely vulnerable to some very low tech solutions. Just sayin'.
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug
Secure cages are hilarious. One noc I used to use sold the company on all its biometric safeguards, but inside of a month, no palm, no retina, no otp... Just sign on a piece of paper in the lobby and roam around freely in a big room full of cages.
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug and we dont even need to go there. just grab a spade
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/06/georgian-woman-cuts-web-access -
@matdevdug I am not an expert on electronics, but let's say somebody with a pair of 20 Kg of salt sacks got to the water refrigeration system. Would it be good?
@Illuminatus @matdevdug I've been curious about corn starch. Mixes readily into cold water, gets gummy as the water warms up.
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@Illuminatus @matdevdug I've been curious about corn starch. Mixes readily into cold water, gets gummy as the water warms up.
@gneilyo @matdevdug Not only that, but also with movement.
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug It sounds to me like the people keeping it 'secure' could be defeated if the local angry townsfolk simply collectively decided to march on them and make sure its without the cops having warning of it
what is security gonna do, shoot all of the townsfolk? it'd be a scandal easily large enough to incite mass revolt ,they can't have that. Likewise the cops couldnt arrest everyone in an *entire town*, nor stop them by the time they get inside and destroy it all.
normally this sort of option isn't possible, but in this case it is for many data centers. would just need to convince the townspeople to ignore the law for a bit.
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug Physical security nothing, LLMs just straight up couldn't do it. Stick them inside a robot body and they'll need either a constantly active high bandwidth low latency data connection to data centers (which I guess means overwhelming the cellular networks which would leave them intermittently failing as the networks struggled even to keep up) or run locally very very slowly and a battery life of 2 minutes. And then they'll mistake a picture on a wall for being a human and attack said wall for the 0.1 minutes they have left.
However, I could see some complete idiot putting one in charge of missiles or something and it triggers something when they told it to trigger something but don't actually. And I think we know who's really at fault then...
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After years inside datacenters, it’s hard to be afraid of AI killing all humans. I've seen the "secure facility." It's a chain link fence and a guy named Gary.
Night shift is usually 10-20 people. Two hundred people could shut a datacenter down with nothing but a Wikipedia article on fiber optics and some enthusiasm. Start swinging and you’ll hit something valuable pretty fast.
The "secure cages"? Chain link. The lobby's got badges and mancatchers and a guard who checks your ID like it insulted him. Out back it's a sliding metal door, propped open with a folding chair by whoever's waiting on FedEx.
It's not a fortress. It's a strip mall with better cable management.
@matdevdug Ukraine continues to teach Russia that facilities built in that manner are vulnerable to cheap-ass drone attacks.
One or two attacks on US data centers would likely jack up the insurance rates for all of them.
Just saying.
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@matdevdug i am assuming if any shenanigans happen that LE can and will geofence to see who might of been around the DC that day.
my suggestion is if you must:
leave the phone and all fancy devices at home
cover your face if you gotta walk through a surveilled public area
take public transportation
if you can, don’t directly get off near the DC
if you are picked up by LE, stfu and get a lawyer
(These are of course only suggestions)
@cyberquixote @matdevdug Geofences rely on physical locality.
Cheap ass drones destroy that assumption (among other things).
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@cyberquixote @matdevdug Geofences rely on physical locality.
Cheap ass drones destroy that assumption (among other things).
true but drones are still loud af, also its silly to think they won’t be able to trace it back, especially if you decided to spend money digitally or have a trail online of you looking up drone stuff.
you can make it harder to pinpoint but if they’re determined and funded well enough they can probably find you :3
my previous suggestions aren’t bulletproof either.
also consider that orgs are trying to upgrade their security before this becomes a bigger issue so you may have to deal with measures that can spot you or your shenanigans outside the perimeter of the property.
REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY A SUGGESTION, IF YOU ACTUALLY DO THIS AND WIND UP IN PRISON, THAT IS ON YOU.
