But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
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@kkarhan Annoy them by buying a smart tv and then denying it access to the internet in your routers rules
@acsawdey or better yet:
Don't buy at all.
- If it ain't broken, no need to replace it!
https://mastodon.social/@kkarhan/116707152390010818Like I'd just flatout refuse to buy a TV that doesn't allow me to just plug & play!
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@silberfuchs @Hex what?
- You gonna tell me there isn't a single TV that one can just plug in and feed images via HDMI like a normal person?
- I mean, worst-case I'll get a digital signage screen from illyama.But so far my cheapo 40" 1080p IPS-LCD-TV refuses to die, so I see no reason to even consider replacing it.
@kkarhan @silberfuchs @Hex yea, just don't connect them to internet and most work fine. annoyingly slower than the previous year's model, every year, due to the bloat still running... but it's nerfed. and they sold it to you at a loss.
and return the ones that don't work fine, obviously. let them eat the fees.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
@Hex oh boy, this explains exactly what I see on our network at work.
Millions of IP addresses from global residential networks making exactly 1 request. With a human-looking, but old user agent header.
We had to implement a JavaScript cookie challenge for all users, which is sad but works.
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@kkarhan @silberfuchs @Hex yea, just don't connect them to internet and most work fine. annoyingly slower than the previous year's model, every year, due to the bloat still running... but it's nerfed. and they sold it to you at a loss.
and return the ones that don't work fine, obviously. let them eat the fees.
@groxx @silberfuchs @Hex I mean, my 10 yr old stupid TV still works fine.
- No reason to replace anything!
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@Hex
> with the user’s consent, turns their phone or smart TV into one of those exit nodes.isn't there someone they forgot to ask?
Idk about other countries, but at least in Poland, ISPs typically forbid customers from "letting other people outside of customer premises use the service" in their ToS.
These proxies wouldn't exist if ISPs enforced their own ToS.
Also, why aren't we holding ISPs accountable for the relayed traffic?
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@groxx @silberfuchs @Hex I mean, my 10 yr old stupid TV still works fine.
- No reason to replace anything!
@kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex i never understood the appeal of a "smart tv".
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@Hex
I am surprised by how easy it is to bypass a VPN on iOS!"The SDK’s config ships a flag “use_netifs”: true. That flag triggers code in the SDK binary that constructs its NWConnection with a specific required interface: en0 (WiFi) or pdp_ip0 (cellular), rather than using the system default route.
On iOS, this bypasses any configured VPN’s tun0 interface entirely. The peer tunnel does not cross a user-configured VPN, even when the rest of the app’s HTTPS traffic does."
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@Hex
I am surprised by how easy it is to bypass a VPN on iOS!"The SDK’s config ships a flag “use_netifs”: true. That flag triggers code in the SDK binary that constructs its NWConnection with a specific required interface: en0 (WiFi) or pdp_ip0 (cellular), rather than using the system default route.
On iOS, this bypasses any configured VPN’s tun0 interface entirely. The peer tunnel does not cross a user-configured VPN, even when the rest of the app’s HTTPS traffic does."
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@kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex i never understood the appeal of a "smart tv".
Just let me watch my normal stuff from my laptop. I already know my laptop and all my browser plugins are there etc.@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs I would literally pay more for a TV that isn't smart. Unfortunately, that's almost impossible to find because vendors figured out they could make more money selling surveillance than hardware.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
@Hex Very interesting. I disconnected my "smart" TV from my wireless router years ago when I noticed it had been sending gigabytes of data without any good reason.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
I should be the one watching the TV. It should not be watching back.
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@kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex i never understood the appeal of a "smart tv".
Just let me watch my normal stuff from my laptop. I already know my laptop and all my browser plugins are there etc.@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex One example that comes to mind is that, when they have services like Netflix, Disney +, etc. preloaded onto the TV.
Mostly useful if, say, you have kids, given that those services effectively replaced cable...sort of.
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@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex One example that comes to mind is that, when they have services like Netflix, Disney +, etc. preloaded onto the TV.
Mostly useful if, say, you have kids, given that those services effectively replaced cable...sort of.
@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex (And with respect to kids, people can babysit... without needing your laptop to have the kid watch the "Show/Movie of the month".
Is screentime bad for kids' minds? Maybe, but it's good for babysitting damage control; "Sit here and watch Frozen again while I put <Younger kid> to their crib." is...an amazing way to make babysitting multiple kids manageable as a single babysitter.
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@Hex@kolektiva.social I solved that issue years ago. All my TVs are dumb. And things like my DVD player and TV are not on the internet. Fuck progress and spyware.
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@Hex When I needed a new dumbbox last year, I specifically ordered the 2024 version. They shipped me the '25 version of that same model. Before opening, I looked it up and it was wall-to-wall AI trash. I immediately returned it, then ordered the '24 from someone else.
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@Hex omg so that's the explanation for what's hitting our gitlab, i already blocked over 1.5 million IPs! > Bright Data is a data-collection company that sells access to what it markets as the world’s largest residential proxy network of 400M+ home IP addresses that its customers route web-scraping traffic through.
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@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex One example that comes to mind is that, when they have services like Netflix, Disney +, etc. preloaded onto the TV.
Mostly useful if, say, you have kids, given that those services effectively replaced cable...sort of.
@AT1ST @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex one could have the same with like Kodi…
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@kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex i never understood the appeal of a "smart tv".
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@AT1ST @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex one could have the same with like Kodi…
@kkarhan @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex Sure, but now you need *two* devices, and you have to always make sure the TV screen is set to the right input to accept the Kodi box, once it's turned on (It is on, right?).
The benefit of a smart TV is that, as long as they aren't spying and telemetry harvesting your data, you get the best of both, but in one device.
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@kkarhan @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex Sure, but now you need *two* devices, and you have to always make sure the TV screen is set to the right input to accept the Kodi box, once it's turned on (It is on, right?).
The benefit of a smart TV is that, as long as they aren't spying and telemetry harvesting your data, you get the best of both, but in one device.
@AT1ST @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex well, I've yet to find a TV (or any screen) that doesn't turn on upon getting an HDMI/DVI/VGA/DP/SCART signal.
- And the few cases where you don't want people fumbling around (and you can't be assed to i.e. send a Wake-on-LAN packet) are digital signage and those are on 24/7 or get powered on/off by scheduled breakers anyway…
