But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
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@kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex i never understood the appeal of a "smart tv".
Just let me watch my normal stuff from my laptop. I already know my laptop and all my browser plugins are there etc.@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs I would literally pay more for a TV that isn't smart. Unfortunately, that's almost impossible to find because vendors figured out they could make more money selling surveillance than hardware.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
@Hex Very interesting. I disconnected my "smart" TV from my wireless router years ago when I noticed it had been sending gigabytes of data without any good reason.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
I should be the one watching the TV. It should not be watching back.
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@kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex i never understood the appeal of a "smart tv".
Just let me watch my normal stuff from my laptop. I already know my laptop and all my browser plugins are there etc.@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex One example that comes to mind is that, when they have services like Netflix, Disney +, etc. preloaded onto the TV.
Mostly useful if, say, you have kids, given that those services effectively replaced cable...sort of.
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@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex One example that comes to mind is that, when they have services like Netflix, Disney +, etc. preloaded onto the TV.
Mostly useful if, say, you have kids, given that those services effectively replaced cable...sort of.
@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex (And with respect to kids, people can babysit... without needing your laptop to have the kid watch the "Show/Movie of the month".
Is screentime bad for kids' minds? Maybe, but it's good for babysitting damage control; "Sit here and watch Frozen again while I put <Younger kid> to their crib." is...an amazing way to make babysitting multiple kids manageable as a single babysitter.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
@Hex@kolektiva.social I solved that issue years ago. All my TVs are dumb. And things like my DVD player and TV are not on the internet. Fuck progress and spyware.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
@Hex When I needed a new dumbbox last year, I specifically ordered the 2024 version. They shipped me the '25 version of that same model. Before opening, I looked it up and it was wall-to-wall AI trash. I immediately returned it, then ordered the '24 from someone else.
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But if *I* hijack *their* devices it's a "felony."
@Hex omg so that's the explanation for what's hitting our gitlab, i already blocked over 1.5 million IPs! > Bright Data is a data-collection company that sells access to what it markets as the world’s largest residential proxy network of 400M+ home IP addresses that its customers route web-scraping traffic through.
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@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex One example that comes to mind is that, when they have services like Netflix, Disney +, etc. preloaded onto the TV.
Mostly useful if, say, you have kids, given that those services effectively replaced cable...sort of.
@AT1ST @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex one could have the same with like Kodi…
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@kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex i never understood the appeal of a "smart tv".
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@AT1ST @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex one could have the same with like Kodi…
@kkarhan @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex Sure, but now you need *two* devices, and you have to always make sure the TV screen is set to the right input to accept the Kodi box, once it's turned on (It is on, right?).
The benefit of a smart TV is that, as long as they aren't spying and telemetry harvesting your data, you get the best of both, but in one device.
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@kkarhan @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex Sure, but now you need *two* devices, and you have to always make sure the TV screen is set to the right input to accept the Kodi box, once it's turned on (It is on, right?).
The benefit of a smart TV is that, as long as they aren't spying and telemetry harvesting your data, you get the best of both, but in one device.
@AT1ST @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex well, I've yet to find a TV (or any screen) that doesn't turn on upon getting an HDMI/DVI/VGA/DP/SCART signal.
- And the few cases where you don't want people fumbling around (and you can't be assed to i.e. send a Wake-on-LAN packet) are digital signage and those are on 24/7 or get powered on/off by scheduled breakers anyway…
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@saxnot @kkarhan @groxx @silberfuchs I would literally pay more for a TV that isn't smart. Unfortunately, that's almost impossible to find because vendors figured out they could make more money selling surveillance than hardware.
@Hex @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs Consider buying a "Monitor" or "Digital Signage Display" instead?
- Those are just Stupid TVs these days…
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@AT1ST @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex well, I've yet to find a TV (or any screen) that doesn't turn on upon getting an HDMI/DVI/VGA/DP/SCART signal.
- And the few cases where you don't want people fumbling around (and you can't be assed to i.e. send a Wake-on-LAN packet) are digital signage and those are on 24/7 or get powered on/off by scheduled breakers anyway…
@kkarhan @saxnot @groxx @silberfuchs @Hex I take it you don't run multiple inputs into a single TV, without using an input splitter.
If you have something that's HDMI 1, another on HDMI 2, and a third on DVI, and most of those devices are just in sleep mode most of the time (Or some are perpetually on.), then...it really sells the "Just go to one screen, and figure out which of the 5 services has the movie/show you want to watch.".
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