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  3. the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap

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  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

    the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap

    <yelling from out of frame>

    …ah. this just in, grapheneOS has decided to start codegooning core apps and security fixes and now they’re exhaustingly defending doing that

    > Many valid issues are reported in between the hallucinations and other nonsense.

    oh I see, what a relief

    > Attackers are heavily using AI models to discover vulnerabilities and develop exploits. For example, Cellebrite is heavily using it including developing frameworks for reverse engineering and vulnerability discovery.

    gotta use the wrongness machine, no sorry, “frontier models” because the coptech adversary is using them and also mythic’s great at finding vulnerabilities til you find out you can do the same job without it. great! https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117226938743085364

    brett_e_carlock@mastodon.onlineB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #53

    @zzt
    Their intellectual dishonesty and aggression rubbed me wrong from the first time I saw them communicate, so...

    I never used nor recommended it.

    I was right to, it seems.

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      the internet loves grapheneOS, the secure AOSP fork that also makes Android nicely usable without the LLM crap

      <yelling from out of frame>

      …ah. this just in, grapheneOS has decided to start codegooning core apps and security fixes and now they’re exhaustingly defending doing that

      > Many valid issues are reported in between the hallucinations and other nonsense.

      oh I see, what a relief

      > Attackers are heavily using AI models to discover vulnerabilities and develop exploits. For example, Cellebrite is heavily using it including developing frameworks for reverse engineering and vulnerability discovery.

      gotta use the wrongness machine, no sorry, “frontier models” because the coptech adversary is using them and also mythic’s great at finding vulnerabilities til you find out you can do the same job without it. great! https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117226938743085364

      zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #54

      just in case you thought graphene was at all on our side, they’ve decided to reply to my threads on this with generic corporate bullshit that has nothing to do with any of the points I raised:

      https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235876960852305

      this is only technically a better look than their previous behavior of flying off the handle as soon as anyone challenges them, but the bar is in hell

      realistically they’re doing this because they’ve just done something incredibly unpopular and are getting a ton of pushback against it that they’re not reading

      also, generic corporate shit plays better when you’re in a partnership with motorola, a company lenovo owns

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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        just in case you thought graphene was at all on our side, they’ve decided to reply to my threads on this with generic corporate bullshit that has nothing to do with any of the points I raised:

        https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235876960852305

        this is only technically a better look than their previous behavior of flying off the handle as soon as anyone challenges them, but the bar is in hell

        realistically they’re doing this because they’ve just done something incredibly unpopular and are getting a ton of pushback against it that they’re not reading

        also, generic corporate shit plays better when you’re in a partnership with motorola, a company lenovo owns

        zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #55

        their other reply is so bad that it’s literally just a copy and paste of a summary of their posts in the thread *I was replying to in the OP*: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235863204199402

        this isn’t funny, projects only do this when they fuck up bad

        groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG errant@mastodon.sdf.orgE zzt@mas.toZ dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD 4 Replies Last reply
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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          their other reply is so bad that it’s literally just a copy and paste of a summary of their posts in the thread *I was replying to in the OP*: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235863204199402

          this isn’t funny, projects only do this when they fuck up bad

          groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #56

          @zzt “but everyone ELSE is using the baby mincer clearly it’s fine”

          davidgerard@circumstances.runD pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP 2 Replies Last reply
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          • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

            @zzt “but everyone ELSE is using the baby mincer clearly it’s fine”

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            #57

            @GroupNebula563 @zzt graphene literally just linked the lineage AI policy as a whataboutery

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              @GroupNebula563 @zzt graphene literally just linked the lineage AI policy as a whataboutery

              zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #58

              @davidgerard @GroupNebula563 “but lineageOS is doing it” cool motherfuckers, there’s a reason why I don’t use lineage! and almost all of it is that graphene promised to be better than lineage!

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                @davidgerard @GroupNebula563 “but lineageOS is doing it” cool motherfuckers, there’s a reason why I don’t use lineage! and almost all of it is that graphene promised to be better than lineage!

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                #59

                @davidgerard @GroupNebula563 can’t root your own device or have a web browser that’s worth a damn, that would make us just as bad as lineage

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                • brett_e_carlock@mastodon.onlineB brett_e_carlock@mastodon.online

                  @zzt
                  Their intellectual dishonesty and aggression rubbed me wrong from the first time I saw them communicate, so...

                  I never used nor recommended it.

                  I was right to, it seems.

                  jaypeach53@calckeymusic.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #60

                  @Brett_E_Carlock@mastodon.online @zzt@mas.to as i was researching OSes to install on a Pixel phone long in the tooth, #grapheneos came up as possible solutions. But seeing how they’re going all out on Artificial Idiots, there’s one fewer candidate.

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    their other reply is so bad that it’s literally just a copy and paste of a summary of their posts in the thread *I was replying to in the OP*: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235863204199402

                    this isn’t funny, projects only do this when they fuck up bad

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                    #61

                    @zzt wait...er... are they trying to say the code they use doesn't meet their standards? Like, that just says it like it is, graphene is android with extra security theater on top. Shouldn't be saying the quiet part loud y'all.

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      their other reply is so bad that it’s literally just a copy and paste of a summary of their posts in the thread *I was replying to in the OP*: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235863204199402

                      this isn’t funny, projects only do this when they fuck up bad

                      zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #62

                      “but everyone else is doing it!” computer security is where you exact exactly like a child that got caught with cigarettes

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                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                        just in case you thought graphene was at all on our side, they’ve decided to reply to my threads on this with generic corporate bullshit that has nothing to do with any of the points I raised:

                        https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235876960852305

                        this is only technically a better look than their previous behavior of flying off the handle as soon as anyone challenges them, but the bar is in hell

                        realistically they’re doing this because they’ve just done something incredibly unpopular and are getting a ton of pushback against it that they’re not reading

                        also, generic corporate shit plays better when you’re in a partnership with motorola, a company lenovo owns

                        dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #63

                        @zzt Can we get a definition of "contractor" and contrast that to "employee"? Asking for a friend.

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                        • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

                          @avesbury_rosetta @hazelnot @zzt The very design of Linux is a horrible mess, it's not really about incremental hardening improvements.

                          It can be secure, yes, since GrapheneOS is secure, but honestly, we really need a better kernel project.

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                          #64

                          @ariarhythmic @avesbury_rosetta @hazelnot @zzt it's high time to move on from the so-called BDFLs of Torvalds and rms and their projects.. (and probably other projects too)

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                          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                            their other reply is so bad that it’s literally just a copy and paste of a summary of their posts in the thread *I was replying to in the OP*: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117235863204199402

                            this isn’t funny, projects only do this when they fuck up bad

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                            #65

                            @zzt Can I get another definition for "code review"?

                            And is this implying that they need to replace Linux as their OS...?

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                            • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

                              @zzt “but everyone ELSE is using the baby mincer clearly it’s fine”

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                              #66

                              @GroupNebula563 @zzt these babies aren't going to mince themselves

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