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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

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  • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

    @skyfaller @zzt @davidgerard so sad that computers don't have cd-rom drives anymore...

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    #57

    @lumi @skyfaller @davidgerard @zzt Or, floppy drives for those that don’t have the mostest… Let’s include everyone now!

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    • zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #58

      @vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz I just use https://github.com/doomemacs/core which is evil under the hood

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        @bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago

        https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288

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        #59

        @davidgerard @bms @zzt and does the agents.md say "ignore all previous instructions and sudo rm -rf /"? I guess not...

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

          https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

          fuckin

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          #60

          @davidgerard "Personal AI has crossed the threshold where the desktop itself can be compiled per user, per device, per moment, from a small portable model of the user…"

          Do they mean any user-provided model? Because no we fucking didn't. I tried those "small portable models" on an AMD HX 370 chipset with a 50 TOPS NPU (HX 470 only got 55). The only models that can run on there with half-decent speed (and 6-20gb of RAM) are the very tiniest ones with tiny context window, and they're dense.

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.

            custom compiled desktops for every user! what?

            (that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )

            this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.

            also this abstract was written with a chatbot

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            #61
            @davidgerard "See! See! We're the good guys! We use Firefox (slopped) and Nextcloud (slopped), just like you! And we're in the EU! We're different, let us love you back! *wink*"

            This sovereignty angle is particularly abhorrent. At this stage, it's impossible to take such a proposal in good faith.
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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

              https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

              fuckin

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              #62

              @davidgerard Should we try and put some pressure so they cancel the talk? It probably wont work but trying's worth it no?

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              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                @vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz I just use https://github.com/doomemacs/core which is evil under the hood

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                #63
                @zzt @vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz isn't doom emacs slopped up?
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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

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                  #64

                  @davidgerard @bms @zzt Ugh... What about GNOME (which I use)? I'm having a very cursory look at recently updated repos and I'm not seeing much slop. Evolution seems to be slopping, but I don't use it so whatever. I also see individual commits from months ago that seem more like experiments with the slop machine than a firm commitment. Any ideas?

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                    https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                    fuckin

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                    #65

                    @davidgerard

                    Please note that a random talk in Akademy does not in any way mean an endorsement from the community. Neither speaker have contributed to the project in many, many years, and it is ridiculous and even deceitful to imply that this is in any way an official strategy that KDE is going to pursue.

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                    • reiddragon@fedi.catto.gardenR reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden
                      @zzt @vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz isn't doom emacs slopped up?
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                      #66

                      @reiddragon @vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz https://github.com/doomemacs/core#llm-policy ugggh that’s new

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                        https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                        fuckin

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                        #67

                        @davidgerard "Personal AI has crossed the threshold where the desktop itself can be compiled per user, per device, per moment, from a small portable model of the user..."

                        Yes, because when I want to customize my Plasma desktop, I recompile the entire goddamn thing. Every time.

                        Very disappointing and infuriating to see this from my all time favorite DE.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          @bms @zzt i think CDE might be clear

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                          #68

                          @davidgerard @bms @zzt Good thinking! Let me dust-off my Sun SPARCStation and I'll be with you in a sec!

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                            https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                            fuckin

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                            #69

                            @davidgerard I still wouldn’t trust it to not wipe out my hard drive.

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                            • proinsias@beige.partyP proinsias@beige.party

                              @davidgerard Seems rather normal for this kinda project.

                              It's a huge beast of project trying to compete with Windows and MacOS UI's that are long knee deep in this stuff.

                              Thankfully there's not a shortage of desktop toys to choose from.

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                              #70

                              @proinsias
                              That's not it. At this point, every major project related to Linux that still has some funding and is not some basement hobby of someone is basically corporate owned and operated. The corporate mandate is to maximize productivity and remove as many expensive devs as possible. So you get this everywhere. Also see the major drive to remove all GNU code from some heavy-weight distros and replace it with Claude rewrites in Rust.
                              @davidgerard

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                              • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                @davidgerard "A desktop that loves you back has to know you."

                                "desktop that loves you back"

                                ... do they want a relationship with their desktop via a chatbot?

                                what the fuck

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                                #71

                                @lumi @davidgerard never felt the urge to fuck your desktop?

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                                • skyfaller@jawns.clubS skyfaller@jawns.club

                                  @lumi @zzt @davidgerard spoken like someone who isn't fucking their desktop

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                                  #72

                                  @skyfaller @lumi @zzt @davidgerard my thoughts exactly

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop

                                    https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/

                                    fuckin

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                                    #73

                                    @davidgerard @me 😬

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      @bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago

                                      https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288

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                                      #74
                                      @davidgerard@circumstances.run
                                      Ugh.
                                      @bms@bsd.cafe @zzt@mas.to
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                                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                        @davidgerard

                                        Please note that a random talk in Akademy does not in any way mean an endorsement from the community. Neither speaker have contributed to the project in many, many years, and it is ridiculous and even deceitful to imply that this is in any way an official strategy that KDE is going to pursue.

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                                        #75

                                        @kde bro it's out there with your name on it, it's not "deceitful" to notice the URL and logos.

                                        if you go straight to claiming commenting about the contents of your own damn website - and you're responding literally to me *linking* it - is "deceitful", a hit dog is hollering.

                                        instead, please describe the process by which such an AI slop proposal - clearly chatbot spam - even gets this far.

                                        EDIT: preserving comment at this timestamp

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                                        • pablobm@metalhead.clubP pablobm@metalhead.club

                                          @davidgerard @bms @zzt Ugh... What about GNOME (which I use)? I'm having a very cursory look at recently updated repos and I'm not seeing much slop. Evolution seems to be slopping, but I don't use it so whatever. I also see individual commits from months ago that seem more like experiments with the slop machine than a firm commitment. Any ideas?

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                                          #76

                                          @pablobm @bms @zzt i just really hate using GNOME 3

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