KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
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but david why won't you assume good faith in this proposal to add AI slop to KDE?
because it's made in polite and civil-toned bad faith
and KDE just accepted a conference submission written with a chatbot, the bad faith comes right there in the package
@davidgerard No no no. Please not KDE too

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@skyfaller @zzt @davidgerard so sad that computers don't have cd-rom drives anymore...
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@davidgerard @zzt The appropriate cutscene now would seem to be Lt. Gorman in "Aliens" (1986) spouting "Ahhhhh shit." and ordering his marines to fall back and use the incinerators.
@bms @davidgerard @zzt Or when Ripley says to “nuke the site from orbit”, as it is the only way to be sure…
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note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.
custom compiled desktops for every user! what?
(that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )
this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.
also this abstract was written with a chatbot
@davidgerard custom compiled desktops for every user that wants one (Gentoo) rejected slop already
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard I'm not nearly as techy as most of you all, and I don't really know exactly what this means, but this just sounds...wrong.
"Personal AI has crossed the threshold where the desktop itself can be compiled per user, per device, per moment, from a small portable model of the user..."

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@skyfaller @zzt @davidgerard so sad that computers don't have cd-rom drives anymore...
@lumi @skyfaller @davidgerard @zzt Or, floppy drives for those that don’t have the mostest… Let’s include everyone now!
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@vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz I just use https://github.com/doomemacs/core which is evil under the hood
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@bms @zzt i am sorry to say that TDE went full slop a while ago
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde/issues/288
@davidgerard @bms @zzt and does the agents.md say "ignore all previous instructions and sudo rm -rf /"? I guess not...
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard "Personal AI has crossed the threshold where the desktop itself can be compiled per user, per device, per moment, from a small portable model of the user…"
Do they mean any user-provided model? Because no we fucking didn't. I tried those "small portable models" on an AMD HX 370 chipset with a 50 TOPS NPU (HX 470 only got 55). The only models that can run on there with half-decent speed (and 6-20gb of RAM) are the very tiniest ones with tiny context window, and they're dense.
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note how this promises a bunch of shit that AI coding doesn't even do slightly.
custom compiled desktops for every user! what?
(that's the Resonant Computing manifesto, a document completely detached from technical reality https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/17/the-resonant-computing-manifesto-same-ai-slop-same-ai-guys/ )
this "talk" looks like someone at KDE has made the decision to go slop and is trying to generate the appearance of consent. you've seen this playbook repeatedly.
also this abstract was written with a chatbot
@davidgerard "See! See! We're the good guys! We use Firefox (slopped) and Nextcloud (slopped), just like you! And we're in the EU! We're different, let us love you back! *wink*"
This sovereignty angle is particularly abhorrent. At this stage, it's impossible to take such a proposal in good faith. -
KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard Should we try and put some pressure so they cancel the talk?
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@vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz I just use https://github.com/doomemacs/core which is evil under the hood
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@davidgerard @bms @zzt Ugh... What about GNOME (which I use)? I'm having a very cursory look at recently updated repos and I'm not seeing much slop. Evolution seems to be slopping, but I don't use it so whatever. I also see individual commits from months ago that seem more like experiments with the slop machine than a firm commitment. Any ideas?
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
Please note that a random talk in Akademy does not in any way mean an endorsement from the community. Neither speaker have contributed to the project in many, many years, and it is ridiculous and even deceitful to imply that this is in any way an official strategy that KDE is going to pursue.
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@reiddragon @vatine @bms @davidgerard @jwz https://github.com/doomemacs/core#llm-policy ugggh that’s new
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard "Personal AI has crossed the threshold where the desktop itself can be compiled per user, per device, per moment, from a small portable model of the user..."
Yes, because when I want to customize my Plasma desktop, I recompile the entire goddamn thing. Every time.
Very disappointing and infuriating to see this from my all time favorite DE.
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@davidgerard @bms @zzt Good thinking! Let me dust-off my Sun SPARCStation and I'll be with you in a sec!
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KDE Conf just wants to *talk* about going full A slop desktop
https://conf.kde.org/event/11/contributions/314/
fuckin
@davidgerard I still wouldn’t trust it to not wipe out my hard drive.
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@davidgerard Seems rather normal for this kinda project.
It's a huge beast of project trying to compete with Windows and MacOS UI's that are long knee deep in this stuff.
Thankfully there's not a shortage of desktop toys to choose from.
@proinsias
That's not it. At this point, every major project related to Linux that still has some funding and is not some basement hobby of someone is basically corporate owned and operated. The corporate mandate is to maximize productivity and remove as many expensive devs as possible. So you get this everywhere. Also see the major drive to remove all GNU code from some heavy-weight distros and replace it with Claude rewrites in Rust.
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@davidgerard "A desktop that loves you back has to know you."
"desktop that loves you back"
... do they want a relationship with their desktop via a chatbot?
what the fuck@lumi @davidgerard never felt the urge to fuck your desktop?